Genealogy Chat

john also my name is very welsh really so maybe something there.

I will try to trace the parewnts of thomas living in canning town and see if I can find a living relative and will have to ask the dreaded question are your family mixed race I hate having to ask but that is the only way I can eliminate families from my search.

Reckon all those men lodging in Liverpool were from Liberia (was that the country where they resettled American slaves as free men?). Sinoe is also called Greenville (and is 3rd largest port in Liberia).

Greenville or Sinoe (pop 14,000 today) is capital of Sinoe County, which is 150m s-e of Monrovia (capital).

One of other lodgers seems to come from Monrovia, which would have been biggest port. And perhaps Settakuro may have been second port?

Don't think your Welshness would have come from Liberia, Jean. But might an ancestor have been a mulatto in West Indies. Mother black and father a slave owner from Wales called WILLIAMS. WILLIAMS is definitely a slave name, and all the other men in that Liverpool lodging house seem to have slave names.

Isn't it amazing that it is possible to trace somebody from a name, an occupation and where somebody was on a particular day. Aren't GR members incredible !!! :-D

Lavender. When we hunt as a pack we are very feared :-D Not sure if Jean has got her answer yet, but when Patchem found him in C1911 I thought Eureka!! And don't often get excited these days - unless Wales wins the Grand Slam and the Cardiff Redbirds win soccer's Championship this season under Sir Mal Kee. ;-)

thanks guys I figured williams is a slave name because there is al ot of welsh and black williams although my mother in law who was welsh did not take kindly to me saying it. any more info feel free thanks . jean

Found Settakurs/o - Settra Kru

http://www.libraryindex.com/encyclopedia/pages/cpxlb5bk7a/krumen-croomen-krus-people.html

That item about Setta Kru ands the proud Kru people who lived in Sinoe State of Liberia is fascinating, Patchem. Presumably Jean will be booking in today for a tattoo.

People tell us we should spend less time with the dead and more time with the living. Probably right. But this sort of relative in a family (who no doubt has been swept under the carpet a bit) is absolutely fascinating. And these Liberian sailors lodging in Liverpool in 1911, and possibly lodging in London docks in 1906, remind us of a new and vibrant country in those days (Liberia) that had brought a lot of slaves out of North America and given them a life of freedom and a purpose near to their roots in Africa.

A sailor has a girl in every port - so rellies may surface in Liverpool, Bristol, New York.....

And we knew nothing about Tomas WILLIAMS till Jean wrote last night. It would be interesting to see what that lady found out who asked Jean to write to her privately. It would be nice if she could share her findings with us. :-)

This is such an interesting thread - well done guys for finding the sailor! As John said, the team work on here can be very impressive.

Patchem - that article you found was really interesting even though I had to google some of the words lol!

Anyway, word of the day is

dolichocephalic

which means where the head is longer than would be expected relative to the width.

Was it Lombroso who said all criminals can be identified by the shape and size of their head. One way of cutting the massive police budget :-D Just measue everyone's head. Don't fancy the chances of any dolichocephalic people keeping their freedom. Bruce Forsyth, Princess Ann....

Hi she answered with "a lot of replies for you jean hope you find something interesting" basically . She has trouble with her computer. Jean