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Thanks Maureen for that, might be onto something with that last one turns out he had a sister called Sarah.

Off to bed but thought I'd put this here just in case:
1891 census transcription details for: 11, Hallam Street, West Derby, Liverpool

RG number: RG12
Piece: 2994
Folio: 19
Page: 32
Reg. District: West Derby
Sub District: West Derby (Municipal)
Parish: West Derby
Enum. District: 30
Ecclesiastical District: St Cyprian
City/Municipal Borough: Liverpool
Address: 11, Hallam Street, West Derby, Liverpool
County: Lancashire

BROWN, James Head Married M 37 1854 Mariner
Liverpool, Lancashire
BROWN, Sarah J Wife Married F 33 1858
Liverpool, Lancashire
BROWN, Sarah H Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Liverpool, Lancashire
BROWN, James Son M 6 1885 Scholar
Liverpool, Lancashire
BROWN, Elizabeth J Daughter F 5 1886
Liverpool, Lancashire
QUEEN,(Quin) Margaret Mother Widow F 55 1836
Ireland


Marriages Mar 1879 (>99%)
Brown James W.Derby 8b 726
Quinn Sarah Jane W.Derby 8b 726

They seem to end up in Scotland. The son James William's military records are on FMPast.

NO idea if it's the right family!!!!

Maureen

Nope am kinda stuck, i only know about great grandfather he was definatly born & raised in liverpool.

Think i will have to restart my search on them.

Thank you for all your help.

Oh! So possibly not that family at all!

When and whom did he marry? Do you have the certificate?

Maureen

Hi Maureen, thank you, am finding the boards very helpful.

I have no idea what her fathers name is.

My great grandfather was called james william brown born 1886 and its his parents that am looking for, he was born around Toxteth liverpool.

His dad was a ships captain so i was told, and apparently his mum was a tailor.

Looks like Lynski spotted the right marriage.

Here's the birth from FMPast
Armed Forces registration event: Birth

Name: ANDERSON, Ellenor M
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1966
Regiment: Ionis
Place: Santa Maura
Country: Greece
Year: 1761-1924
Volume: 3
Page: 18
Record source: GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)

Maureen

Thank you very much for the help jan.

Michelle-do you happen to know her father's name? Possibly a military background.

Welcome to the boards,by the way! :-D

Maureen

Maybe the enumerators had never heard of Corfu!! The 1911 was filled in by the householder, so as Maureen cleverly spotted they just made a stab at the spelling.
On the 1881, if you look at the image, the enumerator had just assumed she was born Scotland I think, her husband coming from there.
Jan

i have no idea what to make of it, 3 different census forms all different information for her.

I imagine she was just living with Mr. Brown as his wife - there was a lot of it about!! Possibly one of them was married already.
Jan

thank you so very much for that.

If possible do you know why she is down on the 1891 census form as being Elleanor M Brown an looks like it says she was born in greece, or am just miss reading it again.

Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
Anderson Eleanor Mary Carlisle 10b 544
Brown James Carlisle 10b 544

Good grief!

1881 England Census

Name: Elenor M. Brown
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Brown
Gender: Female
Where born: Corfue, Scotland

Civil parish: St Cuthbert without Botchergate
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address: 1 Metcalfs Court
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Carlisle
Sub-registration district: St Cuthbert

James Brown 25
Elenor M. Brown 22
Charles P. Brown 1

Well spotted Maureen!

1891 England Census

Name: Eleanor M Brown
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Brown
Gender: Female
Where born: Maura; British Suby; Jenisonbls, Greece

Civil parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Kirkdale

James Brown 35
Eleanor M Brown 32
Charles P Brown 11
Robert J Brown 9
William I Brown 6
George H Brown 4
Elizabeth J Brown 2
Joseph S Brown 9/12

Sounds Scottish to me, despite saying England 1901! Husband born Scotland.
Jan

The 1911 says Greece,I think. Dear heavens is that supposed to be Corfu??

Maureen

1911 England Census

Name: Elenor Mary Brown
Age in 1911: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Cour Feaw Green
Civil parish: Kirkdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 10 Daisy Street Kirkdale Liverpool
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: West Derby

James Brown 55
Elenor Mary Brown 52
George Henrey Brown 24
Joseph Stewart Brown 20
Jessie Brown 16
James Brown 13
Mable Brown 12
Gertrude Alexandra Brown 9

1901 England Census

Name: Elenor M Brown
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Brown
Gender: Female
Where born: Carefwie, England

Civil parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Kirkdale

James Brown 45
Elenor M Brown 42
William J Brown 16
George H Brown 14
Elizabeth J Brown 12
Joseph S Brown 10
Nellie Brown 8
Jessie Brown 6
James Brown 3
Mable Brown 2

its the 1901 census form, elenor m brown born 1859, down as living in lancashire kirkdale at the time.