Genealogy Chat

Please does anyone know where these are kept, and can I get easy access to them online for free. This is for British people, not the local people.
Also, if a civilian was killed at sea duiring the last war, where would a record of their death be found.
Many,many thanks
Julia in Derbyshire

The CWGC site may have the civilian death record.

If the Penang births were Military or reg at the British Embassy then they should show on Find My Past

If you haven't got FMP then can take a look if you care to give details

Thanks Shirley, both people who possibly died in Penenag were British, who first decided to live in Singapore, and then moved to Penang, and had nothing to do with the military.

Thanks
Julia in Derbyshire

Their deaths may have been registered at the British Embassy . worth a look

Thanks Shirley, that is worth having a look. But how do I find it.

Thanks

Julia in Derbyshire

do you have FMP?

if so put the names in search and span down to the deaths section. select overseas death if it shows any.

If you find a ref then order through GRO as usual but specify overseas death and the order form adjusts to take the GRO ref given

Also if you find the CWGC one you can get a copy of the death cert from the same section

Thanks Shirley, no I do not have FMP, sorry


Julia in Derbyshire

OK then if you care to give some details I can take a look .if you want :-D

Many,many thanks Shirley, you are a star, who might not be so willing when I give you the details.
Margaret Eliza Wells Webster Turner, b 1864 St Gidding Hunts. Sometimes just uses the name Eliza Turner, sometimes Margaret Turner. Put on a ship bound for Australia c1942 from Singapore, only for the ship to be sunk by the Japanese Navy, on it's journey. Family story is she may have married a Mr Leighton.
Eleanor Annie Turner b 1867 Whittlesey Cambs married in 1897 to
William John D Trengrove b 1874
They went to Singapore first, then on to Penang, where William was high up in the Freemasons.
This is probably all I know.
Again many thanks

Julia in Derbyshire

only finding this at the mo






Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Mrs TRENGROVE
Date of departure: 15 March 1906
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Singapore
Destination country: Singapore

Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Female
Occupation:
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 3
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Mr TRENGROVE
Ship: INDIA
Official Number:
Master's name: Capt T W Vibert
Steamship Line:
Where bound: Sydney, Australia
Square feet:
Registered tonnage: 418?
Passengers on voyage: 89

going to Penang

Name: Mr W J W TRENGROVE
Date of departure: 25 July 1912
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Penang, Malaysia
Passenger destination: Penang, Malaysia

Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital status:
Sex: Male
Occupation:
Passenger recorded on: Page 4 of 8




The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -


Mrs TRENGROVE Page 4 of 8 View transcript
Mr W J W TRENGROVE Page 1 of 8 View transcript


Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
NAMUR
123528
A Collyer
P & O
Yokohama, Japan
4179
69

Not finding any death records for them.

Thanks you so much Shirley, for giving it a try

Many Thanks

Julia in Derbyshire

Not picking anything up for Margaret Turner/Leighton sorry :-(

Shirley, I have a feeling she went out to Singapore after the Trengroves, because she went to work for them in their music shop, if that is any help.

Many Thanks

Julia in Derbyshire

just searching on Turner this looks a possiblty (no others suitable showing)


Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Miss TURNER
Date of departure: 14 April 1908
Port of departure: Southampton
Destination port: Singapore
Destination country: Singapore

Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital Status: Single
Sex: Female
Occupation: Servant
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 4 of 6
Ship: PRINZ HEINRICH
Official Number:
Master's name: Grosch
Steamship Line: Nord Deutscher Lloyd
Where bound: Japan
Square feet:
Registered tonnage: 3902
Passengers on voyage: 69

No further info given.

Found this by Googling

I was recently looking for Penang BMD information and saw the note below in
the Malaysia-L archives. The people at an LDS Family History Centre
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp might also be
able to help. Family History Center, Ipoh West Malaysia, No. 166-39-6
Kelawei Road, Gurney Park, Pine Tower Condo, Penang, Western Malaysia,
Malaysia Phone: 60-4-229-3067.

It may help to also search for the alternative spelling

Name: William Trengove
Birth: abt 1874 - Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England
Residence: 1881 - Stamford St John, Lincolnshire, England
===============================
Name: William J D Trengove
Spouse: Eleanor A Trengove
Birth: abt 1874 - Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England
Residence: 1901 - Whittlesey, Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England
============================================
Name: John William D Trengrove
Birth: Apr 1874 - Hitchin, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire
===============================
marriage
William John D Trengove Apr-May-Jun 1897 Whittlesey

Thank you borth Shirley and Thelma.


Shirley, that is her and Thelma, that is them.
Thanks to both of you for your efforts.
A couple of years ago, a rellie went to both Singapore and Penang, to see if they could find anything, but it was fruitless in both cases.

Julia in Derbyshire