Genealogy Chat

I have been researching my family tree, specifically the surname Harmson on and off for over 20 years. However every time I try and find out anything more about one particular relative, the one everyone told me was the black sheep, I draw a blank. I have him on the 1911 census and see he married (then from family he deserted the family just after the WW1). There I draw a total blank. No death record for him in this country and have looked at America and Canada but nothing there either. I am frustrated as don't know what to do next.

Can anyone offer any suggestions

Thanks

Carol

Carol, can you post some more info, eg DOB, POB, parents, wife, children?

Have you asked about him before? If not, maybe if you post 1911 onto here folks might be able to come up with something.
Jan

Hi his name is George Harmson born 1886 in Sculcoates, Yorkshire, his father was George Harmson born York 1858 his mother Esther Harmson born York. The George who I am searching for (1886 birth) married Lily Curtis in 1912. This is the lady he deserted.

He served in the army during WW1 but survived it but shortly afterwards there was a big fall out and no one heard from him again.

Hope someone can push me in the right direction,

thanks

I see what you mean - not a trace. Maybe he emigrated? Did think about this one but how likely is it really!

EDITThere is a corresponding George Armson birth in Leics which I would say is him.

Name: George Armson
Birth Date: abt 1888
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1962
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Leicestershire Central
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 3a
Page: 625

It looks very much as if he changed his name . Did he have children with lily ? he may not have wanted to surport them so did a name change .

No chance of finding him if so .!

Hi

Yes he did have children with Lily but I dont know who they are. there was a rumour of Canada but not been able to find anything for him there that matches.

Very frustrating.

Thanks for your help

Cx

if either of these are Lily then she didnt remarry
Name: HARMSON, Lily
Registration District: Wakefield
County: Yorkshire
Year of Registration: 1973
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Date of Birth: 16 September 1890
Volume No: 2D
Page No: 1489

Name: HARMSON, Lily
Registration District: Howden
County: Yorkshire
Year of Registration: 1965
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 74
Volume No: 2A
Page No: 155

Possible children:

Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
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Harmson Harold Curtis York 9d 85

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Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
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Harmson Eileen Curtis Leeds 9b 533

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Births Dec 1916 (>99%)
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Harmson Sheila Curtis Hunslet 9b 656

He isnt showing on the shipping lists going abroad

I know, I got those results too. My family are very good at cutting people off!

I will have to wait for the 1912 census to come out so I can see if that yields anything.

Thanks for your assistance
x

I would bet you will find him somewhere under the name of Harrison - an obvious transcription error.

My Great-Grand-Father's names spelling changed from the time he was born to the time he got married to the time his first son was born to the time he died and I still turning up all sorts of weird things so, try different spellings of the name, hope this helps.

Last year! I watched one of them programs that finds people who can collect money coz their rellies died!!! and on there they said a man often changed his name if he left his family ie deserted

So prehaps this is one of those men

Now this death here may be him I found a death and sent for a certificate and it was who i was looking for coz the informant name was a person in the family ...worth a try

Have you tried Search Trees on this site?

There are other members with the surname Harmson in their trees.

You might find a connection?

If (as you say ) he was in the Army + fought in WW1 + survived that conflict -- He should be easy to find through his army record and Medal rolls If he stayed in the forces after WW1 maybe his records show when +where his discharge address was There may be his change of name on his discharge forms (if he did change his name) Regards Bob B

Not seeing a marriage for his parents. What name did his father marry under?

Rose

Is this the marriage?

Marriages Sep 1881
ARMASON George Wetherby 9a 139
LOWTHER Esther Ann Wetherby 9a 139

Rose

For Ref is this the family 1911.

1911 England Census
about George Harmson Name: George Harmson
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hull
Civil parish: Acomb
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Plantion Cotteaes Poppleton Road York
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Labourer Farm
Registration district: Great Ouseburn
Registration District Number: 488
Sub-registration district: Poppleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 03
Piece: 25887
Household Members: Name Age
George Harmson 55
Ester An Harmson 46
George Harmson 24
Alburt Harmson 13
Puscilla Harmson 11
Edeth May Harmson 6
Edward Harmson 4
Phills Harmson 1

I came across this entry


British Commonwealth War Graves
Registers 1914-18


Harmson Pte Ernest.23855
10th West Yorkshire Reg.
Died 1st July 1916.
Son of Geoerge and Ester
118 poppleton rd York


Same man is he a brother to George

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about Ernest Harmson Name: Ernest Harmson
Birth Place: Acomb, York
Death Date: 1 Jul 1916
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: York
Rank: Private
Regiment: Prince of Wales's Own (West Yorkshire Regiment)
Battalion: 10th Battalion
Number: 23855
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre