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Agree, GB. Lets hope OP comes back!

Suzy and Sally don't look too happy about the diet!

1841:

1841 Scotland Census
about Mary Divine
Name: Mary Divine
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Female
Where born: England

Civil parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: Hilltown West Side
Occupation: Washer
Parish Number: 282
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Divine 35
Hellen Divine 12 b England
Peter Divine 10 b England
Henry Divine 7
Charls Divine 5
Edward Divine 2
N K 1 MO
Hellen Mcgregor 75

Possible in 1851:

1851 Scotland Census
about Henry Divine
Name: Henry Divine
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Mary Divine
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfar
Parish Number: 282
Civil parish: Dundee
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: Adamsons Land Wallace Pend
Occupation: Mill Worker
ED: 76
Page: 34 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 126
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1851_63
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Divine 46
Ann Divine 20
Henry Divine 16
Charles Divine 66 - transcribed as Mary's son!!
Edward Divine 12

Thanks Potty

There is a possible for Henry in 1851 as Divine

Really could do with finding out if the poster has the marriage cert otherwise it is a waste of time posting more info


Maureen

Think you have found them,GB. Had a couple of credits for scotlandspeople so checked the census there. These two look like the Edward and Hendrey you found:

1 1861 DEVIN EDWARD M 0 DUNDEE SECOND DISTRICT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/02 038/00 022

1 1861 DEVIN HENDRY M 27 DUNDEE SECOND DISTRICT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/02 038/00 022

1861 mad guess time

Name: Edward Devon
Age: 4 MO
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Frangie Devon
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee
Registration Number: 282/2
Registration district: Dundee Second District
Civil parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 17 Handerson Wynd
ED: 38
Household schedule number: 107
Line: 25
Roll: CSSCT1861_41A
Household Members: Name Age
Frangie Devon 20 -born Ireland
Edward Devon 4 MO
James Maggan 39
Bety Maggan 27
Hugh McCaffary 30
Mary McCaffary 26
Rose McCaffary 9 MO
Thomas Shelvie 28
Ann Shelvie 27
Findly Shelvie 3



1861 at the same address
Name: Hendry Veain
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee
Registration Number: 282/2
Registration district: Dundee Second District
Civil parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 17 Handerson Wynd
Occupation: Lab
ED: 38
Household schedule number: 107
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1861_41A
Household Members: Name Age
David Dowis 29
Ann Dowis 29
John Dowis 17
Elis Dowis 5
Mgt Dowis 3
Hendry Veain 27



But as you can not view images on Ancestry it is purely a guess

Sorry, cannot find Henry b1841 before the 1871 census.

Henry b1869 birth:

HENRY DEVINE Pedigree
Birth: 12 JAN 1869 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

Father: HENRY DEVINE Family
Mother: MARY BRADY

Other children of Henry and Mary:

1. CATHERINE DIVINE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 14 JUL 1871 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

2. ANN DEVINE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 29 JUN 1873 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

3. BRIDGET DEVINE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 04 JUN 1866 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

4. DEVINE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 05 MAY 1874 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

5. HELEN DEVINE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 14 JUL 1864 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

6. MARY DEVINE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 20 SEP 1862 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

And possibly this one:

EDWARD DEVINE Pedigree
Birth: 21 DEC 1860 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Parents:
Father: HENRY DEVINE Family
Mother: MARY BRIDIE


Henry and Mary's marriage:

HENDRY DIVINE Pedigree
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY BRADY Family
Marriage: 28 AUG 1860 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

These are all from familysearch - you can look at the original images on scotlandspeople site (pay to view). The marriage reg should give you Henry and Mary's parents.

1881 poss
Name: Mary Devine
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 282/2
Registration district: St Mary
Civil parish: Liff and Benvie
County: Angus
Address: 36 Walton St
ED: 19
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 11
Roll: cssct1881_83
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Devine 43
Edward Devine 21
Mary Devine 19
Helen Devine 17
Henry Devine 12
Catherine Devine 10
Ann Devine 2



1871 ?
Name: Henry Dawrie
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Dawrie
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/2
Registration district: St Mary
Civil parish: Liff and Benvie
County: Angus
Address: 18 Milns E Wynd Cooper D
Occupation: Hackler
ED: 20
Household schedule number: 28
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1871_50
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Dawrie 30
Mary Dawrie 33 - Ireland
Edward Dawrie 11 - Dundee
Mary Dawrie 8
Helen Dawrie 7
Henry Dawrie 3



But you still need the marriage cert to confirm the names of his parents



1881 ?
Name: Henry Divine
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 433
Registration district: Kemback
Civil parish: Kemback
County: Fife
Address: Dura Den Hamlet
Occupation: Flax Dresser
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 80
Line: 9
Roll: cssct1881_120
Household Members: Name Age
George Duncan 60
Elizabeth Duncan 60
Mary Duncan 27
Margaret Duncan 20
Elzabeth Penny 7
James Penny 2
Robert Leitch 33
John Hain 36
Henry Divine 46
Colin Smart 30


http://www.scotsfamily.com/occupations.htm
Hackler
Lint dresser who separated the coarse flax with a toothed hackle

does henry b 1869 appear on any census from his younger years?

why on EARTH is she down as DOMINA>?! :D laughs :-D

1901
Name: Domina Devine
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry Devine
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Walker
Ecclesiastical parish: Walker Christchurch
Town: Walker
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Longbenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 266
Piece: 4807
Folio: 30
Page Number: 52
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Devine 32
Domina Devine 26
Henry Devine 10
Thomas Devine 7
Isabella Devine 6
Mary Devine 4
Edward Devine 1

no* (terrible spelling! ha! - its late) |Davina yes is buried in walker cemetary with henry which is where they moved to after their 3rd/4th child. As for their lives in scotland/history i know nothing!

I havent know, just having to rely on living relatives memory! The children seem quite old to b at home - and no mum? forfarshire and liff & benvie ring a bell to research i did ages ago, so im confident thats henry. Its him I have more interest in to be honest and the devine ancestors. Thank you :)

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Deaths Dec 1910 (>99%)
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Devine Davina 39 Tynemouth 10b 175

1911 ?
DEVINE, Henry Head Widower M 42 1869 Ship Plater Helper Dundee VIEW
DEVINE, Henry Son Single M 20 1891 Ship Plater Marker Dundee VIEW
DEVINE, Thomas Son Single M 17 1894 Ship Plater Marker Dundee VIEW
DEVINE, Bella Daughter Single F 16 1895 Dundee VIEW
DEVINE, Mary Daughter F 14 1897 Dundee VIEW
DEVINE, Edward Son M 11 1900 School Newcastle Northumberland VIEW
DEVINE, Ellen Daughter F 9 1902 School Newcastle Northumberland VIEW
DEVINE, William Son M 6 1905 School Newcastle Northumberland VIEW
DEVINE, Peter Son M 3 1908 Newcastle Northumberland VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30792 Reference:
RG14PN30792 RG78PN1759 RD559 SD3 ED20 SN151

Registration District:
Tynemouth Sub District:
Longbenton Enumeration District:
20 Parish:
Walker

Address:
3 Western Glower Low Walker Newcastle O/t

1891 poss

Name: Henry Devine
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Henry Devine
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarsh
Registration Number: 282/2
Registration district: St Mary
Civil parish: Liff and Benvie
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 36 Walton St
Occupation: Assistr Overseer
ED: 19
Household schedule number: 43
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1891_90
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Devine 56 - Dundee, flax dresser
Mary Devine 28
Henry Devine 22
Catherine Devine 19
Ann Devine 12



Have you got the marriage cert to confirm the names of parents

Henry Devine born 1869 *dundee who married Davina/Divina *Bell born 1875
They had 4 children i think that were born in dundee - Henry b 1891, Thomas b 1894, Isabella b 1895, Mary b 1897.

Can you post some details

Would anyone on ancstry mind doing a look up for me? i've ground to a halt :(