Genealogy Chat

Well, I'm glad that you have a clearer picture, Sue, but do you know who your grandfather Squire's parents were?

Thank you all very much for your time and answers. I have a much clearer pic of it now .

Sue

As I see it there's such a simple solution to this problem. Get Squire's birth certificate!

Leonard's mother was shown on his Army record on Ancestry as
Sarah Ellen PICKSTONE
22a Park Lane, Whitefield.

Squire's record is there too, but next of kin is his wife.
His children and their dates of birth are listed there.

Gwyn

I don't think you can assume that Squire was Sarah's son - he is Jane's grandson but could be the son of one of her other children. The only way to find out for sure is to buy his birth cert.

Jill

Squire's marriage is listed on familysearch site.
No father shown.

Name: Squire Pickstone
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 12 Sep 1909
Event Place: Radcliffe (St Thomas), Lancashire, England
Gender: Male
Age:
Marital Status: Single
Estimated Birth Year:
Father:
Mother:
Spouse: Emily Bircher
Spouse's Age:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Estimated Birth Year:
Spouse's Father: Thomas Bircher
Spouse's Mother:
Film Number: 2356278
Digital Folder Number: 004497194
Image Number: 00461

Leonard 1891 is listed on the lancs bmd site with mother's maiden name as BOOTH.
I don't think Squire has been transcribed yet.

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi

Gwyn

Have you not bought Squire's birth certificate?

Births Sep 1891 (>99%)
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Pickstone Squire Bury 8c 656

Sarah E in the 1911 was born in 1862

Sarah E in the 1901 was born in 1871


I think they are two different families.

According to the 1901 census your Squire was the son of Sarah E. who was unmarried. She, in turn was the daughter of Jane, a widow.

Thanks Pam, So who was the mother of my grandfather Squire Pickstone. Could it be that Leonard & Squire were brothers, or is my info. wrong. I have parents of Squire as James Pickstone & Sarah Booth. Another GR member has James & Sarah as Leonards parents - no mention of Squire!!

Sue

1901
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PICKSTONE, Jane Head Widow F 61 1840
Whitefield
Lancashire
PICKSTONE, Sarah E Daughter Single F 30 1871 Cotton Spinner
Whitefield
Lancashire
PICKSTONE, Squire Grand Son Single M 9 1892
Radcliffe
Lancashire

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Registration District:
Bury Sub District:
Radcliffe Enumeration District:
4 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Thomas

Civil Parish:
Radcliffe Municipal Borough:
Address:
1, Walker Street, Radcliffe County:
Lancashire

Leonard 3 months old in 1891:

1891 England Census
about Leonard Pickstone Name: Leonard Pickstone
Age: 3/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Pickstone
Mother's name: Sarah E Pickstone
Gender: Male
Where born: Radcliffe, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Radcliffe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Radcliffe
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Bury
Sub-registration district: Radcliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3143
Folio: 118
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
James Pickstone 28
Sarah E Pickstone 29
Leonard Pickstone 3/12

Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
BOOTH Sarah Ellen Bury 8c 713
BROOKES Hannah Bury 8c 713
Pickstone James Bury 8c 713
RAMSBOTTOM Thomas Bury 8c 713

The only way to be certain that they both belong to Sarah is purchase their birth registrations.

Name: Sarah E Pickstone
[Sarah E Booth]
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Catherine Booth
Gender: Female
Where born: Outwood, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Whitefield
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Park Lane
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Bury
Sub-registration district: Whitefield

Catherine Booth 66
Sarah E Pickstone 39
Leonard Pickstone 10 Where born: Radcliffe, Lancashire, England

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PICKSTONE, Sarah Ellen Head Widow F 49 1862 Lanc Radcliffe
PICKSTONE, Leonard Son Single M 20 1891 Drawer In Cotton Mill Lanc Radcliffe
CAFF, James Boarder Married M 34 1877 Scavenger Melsonby Durlington
LEWIS, James Boarder Single M 18 1893 Under Garder Domestic Wem Shropshire

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Registration District:
Bury Sub District:
Whitefield Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Whitefield

Address:
22a Park Lane Whitefield County:
Lancashire

I need to know the mother of Leonard Pickstone (1891 Radcliffe, Lancs.) In 1911 shows him living with Sarah Pickstone, who I thought was the mother of my grandfather Squire Pickstone also born 1891 Radcliffe. Please could you help?

Thank you

Sue