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Yep, I am sure about the James and Williamson marriage...Bessie seems to be the only produce of it, not sure how long it lasted or what happened to them later.
I have been trying to trace the Dartford Williamsons for her maternal side, but I am thinking they might be the wrong ones...

1911 census Address: 5 Parkfield Road Willesden Green N W

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

JAMES, John Head Married M 49 1862 General Labour Amersham Bucks
JAMES, Mary Ann Wife Married 25 years F 48 1863 Laundry's Eddington Wilts
JAMES, Florence May Daughter Single F 15 1896 Work At Home Willesden Middlesex
JAMES, Lavina Daughter Single F 9 1902 School Willesden Middlesex
PAILECHINDEN, Harry Boarder Single M 28 1883 Carman Lydenham



1911 census Address: 4 Parkfield Road Willesden Green N W

Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

WEST, John Thomas Head Married M 32 1879 Police Constable Birchington Kent
WEST, Caroline Wife Married 3 years F 30 1881 No Occupation Wing Rutland
WEST, Kenneth Charles Son Single M 3 1908 No Occupation Willesden Middlesex
WEST, Barbara Kathleen Daughter Single F 0 1911 No Occupation Willesden Middlesex

ok, lets start with what you are sure of and work back

are you sure that this marriage cert is the correct one for her parents?


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about William James Name: William James
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Williamson
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 04 Nov 1912
Parish: St Andrew, Willesden
County: London
Borough: Brent
Father Name: John James
Spouse Father Name: Henry Edward Williamson

William James was a milkman living at 5 Parkfield Road, his father was a labourer

Elizabeth was a spinster of 4 Parkfield Road, her father was a coachman

the witnesses were John James and Nellie Williamson

This is getting confusing lol...I don't know now...ahhh

looking at the original the surname is Williamson!

Henry E in 1911 and his father

also Mr Nelson the boarder?

1911 census
Address: The Victory 26 East Hill Dartford

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

WILLIAMS, Henry Edwrd Head Married M 45 1866 Beer House Keeper Dartford Kent
WILLIAMS, Rosena Minnie Wife Married 9 years F 42 1869 Assistant Keeper Hansvell Middlesex
ELLIOTT, Maud Sister Single F 19 1892 Bar Maid Hansvell Middlesex
WILLIAMS, Edward Boarder Widower M 75 1836 Retired Milborough Dartford Kent
ELLIOTT, Redford Visitor Single M 28 1883 Pluimber Hanwell Middlesex
NELSON, Charles Visitor Single M 32 1879 Seaman Merchant Service Denmark Res

original states no children to marriage

But the important thing is that there is no Henry E there!!...Now, where could he be?

in Dartford again in 1901 census

Address: 2, Granville Terrace, Sutton At Hone, Hawley

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

WILLIAMSON, Edward Head Married M 65 1836 Mill Wright Dartford Kent
WILLIAMSON, Jane Wife Married F 64 1837 Purfleet Essex
WILLIAMSON, Ellen Daughter Single F 29 1872 Dartford Kent
WILLIAMSON, Bessie Daughter Single F 24 1877 Dartford Kent
WILLIAMSON, Jennie Daughter Single F 19 1882 Making Tabloids In Chemical Factory Dartford Kent
NELSON, Charles Visitor Single M 29 1872 Quarter Master Sweden B S

ohhh hmmm...and in 1901? anyone?

still in Dartford on 1891 census

Address: 2, Granville Terrace, Sutton At Hone, Hawley

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

WILLIAMSON, Edward Head Married M 55 1836 Millwright Dartford Kent
WILLIAMSON, Jane Wife Married F 54 1837 Purfleet Essex
WILLIAMSON, Henry E Son Single M 25 1866 Mariner Merchant Service Dartford Kent
WILLIAMSON, Bessie Daughter F 14 1877 Scholar Dartford Kent
WILLIAMSON, Jenny Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar Dartford Kent
WILLIAMSON, Grace Granddaughter F 2 1889 Waltham Abbey Essex
ALLEN, Eliza Visitor Single F 57 1834 Purfleet Essex

Thanks for that :)
Last request I hope anybody, Could you look up these guys in the 1891 census to see where they went to? thanks :)
WILLIAMSON, Edward Head Married M 45 1836 Millwright
Dartford
Kent VIEW
WILLIAMSON, Jane E Wife Married F 44 1837
Purfleet
Essex VIEW
WILLIAMSON, Arthur W Son Single M 19 1862 Millwright
Dartford
Kent VIEW
WILLIAMSON, Henry E Son Single M 15 1866 Shopman In Boot Trade
Dartford
Kent VIEW
WILLIAMSON, Ellen E J Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar
Dartford
Kent VIEW
WILLIAMSON, Bessie 4

thanks goodnight

Have to get to bed now busy day tomorrow...........nite nite!

thanks :)

1891 census - address transcription
Address: 11, Great Queen Street, Dartford

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Sched Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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95 WELLS, Fred Head Married M 40 1851 Engine Fitter In Leather Factory
Dover
Kent VIEW
95 WELLS, Charlotte Wife Married F 37 1854
Sittingbourne
Kent VIEW
95 WELLS, Amy Daughter Single F 17 1874 Pupil Teacher
Plumstead
Kent VIEW
95 WELLS, Ernest Son M 13 1878 Scholar
Southwark
London VIEW
95 WELLS, Edith Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar
Dartford
Kent VIEW
95 WELLS, Frank Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Dartford
Kent VIEW
95 WELLS, Florence Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar
Dartford
Kent VIEW
95 WELLS, Ethel Daughter F 4 1887
Dartford
Kent VIEW
95 WELLS, Fred Son M 0 1891
Dartford
Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
640 Folio:
57 Page:
15

Registration District:
Dartford Sub District:
Dartford Enumeration District:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Holy Trinity

Civil Parish:
Dartford Municipal Borough:
Address:
11, Great Queen Street, Dartford County:
Kent

There is a Elizabeth Allcorn and Elizabeth Glasspool as possible spouse for below which looks like Henrys marriage.



BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Marriage


Name: WILLIAMSON, Edward Henry
Registration District: Help Hampstead
County: London
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 1237

My GGran always said her family were gypsies, perhaps this explains all the moving around every ten years?! lol

I think most of them made it up!! It happens all the time you can not rely on a birthplace being the one given in the census.

11, Great Queen St, Dartford for 1891...is there anyway you could search that address for me pls?

I have posted the 1891 1901 and 1911 for you. The 1911 census is the most recent you can view.........you have to wait another 10 years for the next one!

that is great, thanks, do they keep changing their place of birth or something? lol