Genealogy Chat

While researching my husbands GGG grandfather I came across a 'Removal Order' for him, his wife and 3 children from one village to another. Why was someone served with one of these orders and is it possible to get a copy of such an order.

A removal order was issued because the family were applying for Relief under the Poor Laws in a place other than the one they were from. It forced them to return to the place of their last legal settlement and make their claim there.

This article has some useful info

http://www.mdlp.co.uk/resources/general/poor_law.htm

Loads of info if you Google. explaining removal orders


George

Thanks for help all.
Will check article and also try Google. I suspected it might have been something to do with poor relief.

You may find it on the National Archives site.I found one for 1780,s for one of my ancestors whose husband had deserted her and the children and she asked for Parish Relief .She was issued with a removal order to Wimbledon where she was born

Thanks Shirley, I will go have a look on there and see.

hi Cath
I was able to get a photocopy of the removal order of my ancestor from the Northamptonshire Records Office.

No luck on National Archives.
Hi Moonbi, will contact Dorset Records Office and see if they have it.

I have today recieved a copy of the Removal Order for George Saunders, his wife Mary and children William, James and Sarah from Bradford Abbas to Corscombe in 1822.
I know for certain that George was born in Chedington and Mary his wife was born in Bradford Abbas. I thought they would have been removed to Chedington and not Corscombe.
Now I have been looking without success for Georges parents in Chedington and drawn a blank so having looked in the Corscombe marriages for Georges parents have found 4 possible couples.
Am I barking up the wrong tree or is it possible that George was removed to his fathers birth parish and not his own. I am desperate to find his parents but almost ready to give up.

Any thoughts or ideas welcome please.

Were there any baptisms in Corscombe?

Leaving a 'paper trail' by means of a baptism register was sometimes a way of claiming a link with a particular parish.
I have even heard of families having children rebaptised, in different parishes so as to ensure they had a good chance of relief if required.

Gwyn

have you tried the 1841 census for any Saunders of Corscombe who could be his parents ?
I realize it is a late date, but they could have still been alive in 1841.

worth a try?

there is a Richard Saunders, of Corscombe, age 73, who could be a possibility.

George is also there, and on freeCen you can view the households

there are 13 people with the Saunders name, of Corscombe on freeCEN for 1841

There are 7 people with the Saunders name,of Chedington on FreeCEN for 1841

Gwyn, thanks for your input. There are quite a few baptisms in Corscombe for Saunders and I have been working my way through them on the Dorset OPC site. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find them elsewhere!

Moonbi, thanks for that info about FreeCen, will have a look and see. This lot are driving me mad.

In the Corscombe marriages I found 4 possible marriages for Georges parents but have now discounted one of them. Here are the other 3:

William Saunders married Jane Peach 13th September 1790.
Joseph Saunders married Sarah Churchill 12th August 1791.
Richard Saunders married Elizabeth Davy 15th February 1792.

I am sure one of these marriages is the right one and I'll get there eventually, lol.
Thank you both for helping.
Calling it a night now.

If an elderly parent is on the household list for George on the 1841 census that would help.

If there was a removal order then an an examination would have taken place to establish right of settlement.

It would be worth looking for the examinaion as it may give a potted life history for the examinee however the amount of informaton given does vary also there is no guarantee that the examination will have survived.

From the examinaton of my 3xGGrandfather in 1815 I found out his previous occupation, when he had married, that he had a child, his parent's and sister's names, that the family had moved to another parish when he was a child, an indication of when his father had died and where and also the fact his mother had remarried .....The best £3 I have ever spent on a photocopy!

However I did discover some of the information given was a little economical with the truth but gave a good base for further research.

Hope you are as lucky.

Chris

Is this George and Marys Marriage .

Dorset, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
about George Saunders
Name: George Saunders
Marriage or Bann Date: 15 Jun 1818
Parish: Bradford Abbas
Spouse's Name: Mary Bishop
..................................................................
Possible for George and his family with Wife Mary

1841 England Census
about George Saunders
Name: George Saunders
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheddington, Dorset, England
[Dorset, England]

Civil parish: Corscombe
Hundred: Bridport Division Beaminster Forum and Redhone
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: ag Lab

Registration district: Beaminster
Sub-registration district: Evershot
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 280
Book: 6
Folio: 18
Page Number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
George Saunders 45
Mary Saunders 49 Not of this Parish
James Saunders 20
Sarah Saunders 18
John Saunders 17
Frances Saunders 15
Robert Saunders 10
Henry Saunders 8
George Saunders 6