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What a coincidence!! I have been helping you Poppie not realising we have the Dartnell family connection

Keeping it in the family !! lol :D :D

From a Public Tree on Ancestry

Parents Henry Scutt 1864 – 1904
Mary Ann Tarry 1872 – 1931 .

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920

Name: William Henry Edward Scutt
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Age at enlistment: 22
Document Year: 1916
Regimental Number: 4632
Regiment Name: London Regiment
Number of images: 3

He was discharged 24/6/1916 - no longer physically fit for service (Epilepsy)

Awarded a gratuity of £40.00

Height :5ft 3 ins
Eyes: Blue
Hair: Light Brown

Marriages Jun 1916 (>99%)
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Baynes Alice M Scutt Lambeth 1d 600 *********** 'M' = Mary
Scutt William H E Baynes Lambeth 1d 600

You can now look for possible offspring on freebmd
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Name: William Henry E Scutt
Birth Date: 28 Nov 1893
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1973
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Lambeth
Registration County: Greater London
Volume: 5d
Page: 87


Even if William was in the Forces, he should appear on 1911 census.

Perhaps he's mistranscribed? Scott would be the obvious alternative.............

Many Thanks to you all for your work

This one is a great help William could have been in the forces
the rest of the Scutt's are there, as is William Johnson whom Mary Ann married later, there ages match to the information I have.

JOHNSON, William Boarder Single M 39 1872 Baker Lambeth VIEW


91 SCUTT, Mary A Boarder Widow F 38 1873 Office Cleaner Lambeth >>>>>>>>
91 SCUTT, George U Boarder Single M 16 1895 Messenger Lambeth>>>>>>>>
91 SCUTT, Mary C J Boarder F 13 1898 School Lambeth VIEW>>>>>

I will tackle the Downes / Craddocks another day. spent far to long on this today :O

Many many thanks again
Kind regards
Poppy :-)

Cant see the others.!

still with James in 1911
CRADOCK, James Joseph Head Married M 36 1875 Printer Pressman County of Middlesex Parish of St Martins VIEW
CRADOCK, Sarah Wife Married
15 years F 35 1876 County of Middlesex Parish of St Giles VIEW
CRADOCK, F W Son M 14 1897 County of Middlesex Parish of St Giles VIEW
CRADOCK, J E Son M 12 1899 County of Middlesex Parish of W Hackney VIEW
CRADOCK, C J Son M 10 1901 County of Middlesex Parish of W Hackney VIEW
CRADOCK, Kathleen Emma Daughter F 8 1903 County of Middlesex Parish of W Hackney VIEW
CRADOCK, John George Son M 6 1905 County of Middlesex Parish of W Hackney VIEW
CRADOCK, Winifred Maud Daughter F 4 1907 County of Middlesex Parish of W Hackney VIEW
CRADOCK, Syndey Thomas Son M 1 1910 County of Middlesex Parish of W Hackney VIEW
DOWNES, Emma Maria Visitor Widow F 63 1848 Needle- Woman County of Middlesex Parish of St Martins >>>>>>

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1106 Reference:
RG14PN1106 RG78PN37 RD11 SD4 ED1 SN226

Registration District:
Hackney Sub District:
South West Hackney Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
St John At Hackney

Address:
2 Millers Terrace County:
London

Name: William Downes
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1896
Age at Death: 46
Registration district: Strand
Registration County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 408

AHHH
1901 census
CRADDOCK, James J Head Married M 25 1876 Printer
St Martin
England VIEW
CRADDOCK, Sarah Wife Married F 25 1876 Laundress
St Giles
London VIEW
CRADDOCK, Frederick W Son M 4 1897
Holborn
London VIEW
CRADDOCK, Charles J Son M 0 (5 MOS) 1901
Stke Newington
London VIEW
DOWNES, Emma M Visitor Widow F 50 1851 Charwoman
St Martins
England >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
215 Folio:
122 Page:
17

Registration District:
Hackney Sub District:
North Hackney Enumeration District:
26 Ecclesiastical Parish:
West Hackney St James

Civil Parish:
Hackney Municipal Borough:
Address:
23, Sanford Terrace, Hackney County:
London

At last found em in 1891
Name: William Downs
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma Downs
Father's name:
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, London, England

Civil parish: St Martin in The Fields
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin in the Fields
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:5 Turners court

Occupation:hawker

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Martin in the Fields
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 213
Folio: 11
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
William Downs 40
Emma Downs 44
James Braddock 16
Edward Braddock 14
Annie Downs 11
Mary Ann Downs 6
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different family

John Mason 56

Patrick Downs 19 s/b Mason
Kate Downs 17 s/b Mason
Sarah Downs 15 s/b Mason



Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 213; Folio 11; Page 16; GSU roll: 6095323.

Can't even see a birth reg'n for Anastasia...........

This MAY be Mary Ann

Births Dec 1884 (>99%)
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Downs Mary Ann E Strand 1b 670

Both daughters Anastasia & Mary Ann could well be married by 1911 Have you looked for any marriages for them?

1881..........again for INFO...............birth years/birthplaces

William DOWNS Head M Male 29 Westminster, Middlesex, England Street Orderly
Emma Maria DOWNS Wife M Female 33 St Martins, Middlesex, England Shirt Maker
Frederick William CRADOCK Stepson Male 8 St Martins, Middlesex, England Scholar
John Worthy CRADOCK Stepson Male 5 St Martins, Middlesex, England Scholar
Edward Francis CRADOCK Stepson Male 4 St Martins, Middlesex, England Scholar
Anastasia DOWNS Dau Female 3 m St Martins, Middlesex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 3 Turners Court
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341071
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0328 / 10

For info ONLY


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Marriages Mar 1880 (>99%)
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Cradock Emma Maria Strand 1b 721
CRADOCK Emma Marie Strand 1b 721
Downes William Strand 1b 721

These are the people living at Walnut Tree walk
91 WRIGHT, Thomas R Head Married M 47 1864 Leather Labourer Southwark VIEW
91 WRIGHT, Bessie J Wife Married
28 years F 45 1866 Kennington VIEW
91 WRIGHT, Nellie E Daughter F 14 1897 Dressmaking St Giles W C VIEW
91 WRIGHT, Samuel T Son M 13 1898 School St Giles W C VIEW
91 WRIGHT, Winifred M Daughter F 10 1901 School Walworth S E VIEW
91 BOOKES, Benjamin Boarder Single M 53 1858 Basket Making Marylebone VIEW
91 CLARK, Alfred Boarder Single M 30 1881 Painters Labourer Lambeth VIEW
91 JOHNSON, William Boarder Single M 39 1872 Baker Lambeth VIEW
91 SCHUSLER, F Boarder Single M 35 1876 Newsvendor Bermingham VIEW
91 MEAD, Patrick Boarder Single M 24 1887 Newsvendor Warickshire VIEW
91 MCDAVITT, Kathleen Boarder Married
6 years F 25 1886 Mantle Machinist Lambeth VIEW
91 MCDAVITT, Frederick Boarder M 1 1910 Bermondsey Lambeth VIEW
91 SCUTT, Mary A Boarder Widow F 38 1873 Office Cleaner Lambeth >>>>>>>>
91 SCUTT, George U Boarder Single M 16 1895 Messenger Lambeth>>>>>>>>
91 SCUTT, Mary C J Boarder F 13 1898 School Lambeth VIEW>>>>>

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1963 Reference:
RG14PN1963 RG78PN69 RD25 SD1 ED21 SN91

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Lambeth Church Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
Lambeth

Address:
37 Walnut Tree Walk County:
London

says she has 3 children but no William living with her
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Name: William Henry Edward Scutt
Spouse Name: Alice Mary Baynes
Record Type: Banns
Marriage Bann Date: 16 Apr 1916
Parish: St Mary at Lambeth
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth

Will take a look

Hello All
Would you be kind enough to look up in 1911 Mary Ann Scutt she would possible have children William Henry Edward dob 1893, George Valentine 1895 and Mary Caroline 1898 she was a widow. 1901 family live at 37 Walnut Tree Walk Lambeth London.

I would also welcome some 1911 information on
William Downes dob 1846 ?? wife Emma Maria her sons from a previous marriage of which I have have not located Fredrick Braddock/Craddock..1873 - 1918
John 1876 Edward 1877 then Emma and Williams 2 girls Anastasia 1880 Mary Ann 1885


Thank you so much inadvance

Kind regards
Poppy :-)

Thank you for your replies
I will take your advise when I have some details.
I am off to out in a while then working till next week so doubt if i can do anything before then.

Thank you again :-)

Poppy

Poppie

Firstly you can search the official 1911 census for free, which may give you some idea if the person you want is on there.Have a go it wont cost you anything.

Link to the 1911 census.

http://www.1911census.co.uk/.

If you then see names which maybe the ones you want you can always ask for a look up, some of us have a subscription to the 1911 census on FMP,
Or even, if you give some names etc we can have a look anyway,dont buy credits on GR as you say you have used a lot.


George

Hi Poppy

Do you have any names, ages and an idea where they were born or living in 1911 ?