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K

K Report 29 Jun 2011 12:46

What a fascinating tale. Jean Williams is a reasonably unusual name. I had a quick look at the 1911 census and barely a dozen are listed.

This may be a complete red herring but I did find this below


KNOWLES, Richard Harrison Head Married M 30 1881 Farmer Monker House Markington Yorkshire VIEW
KNOWLES, Ethel Mary Rose Wife Married F 29 1882 La Zouch Leicestershire VIEW
KNOWLES, Kathlyn Hilda Mary Daughter Single F 0 1911 Morker House Ripon VIEW
ANDERTON, Arthur Boarder Single M 25 1886 Farm Pupil St Helen Lancashire VIEW
>>>WILLIAMS, Jean Single F 24 1887 Monthly Nurse Mold Flintshire VIEW
HOWLETT, George Servant Single M (NOT KNOWN) Waggoner On Farm Not Known VIEW
FIFE, Richard Servant Single M 20 1891 Labourer On Farm Eastham Nr Norwich Norfolk VIEW
BUCHE, Leonard Morris Servant Single M 15 1896 Waggoner On Farm Wheldeaks Nr York Yorkshire VIEW
TRUEMAN, Tom Servant Single M 16 1895 Cowman On Farm Pickhill Gate House Yorkshire VIEW
TAYLOR, Ruth Isabel Servant Single F 30 1881 Cook Domestic Sowerby on Cotcliffe Yorkshire VIEW
HAW, Alice Servant Single F 17 1894 Housemaid Domestic York Yorkshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
25860 Reference:
RG14PN25860 RG78PN1494 RD487 SD2 ED13 SN2

Registration District:
Ripon Sub District:
Ripon Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
Markington with Wallerthwaite

Address:
Snedale Morker Ripon County:
Yorkshire (West riding)


Cheryl

Cheryl Report 29 Jun 2011 12:51

I am so pleased for you. That give you a new line to trace now.

Happy hunting
Cheryl

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 29 Jun 2011 16:45

Thanks everyone, Im really pleased!

K, thank you for that, I had a quick look this morning on the 1911, but only put in 10 years either side of 1900 (not sure why!) I think yours sounds probably more likely than the one I found living in Conway Carnarvonshire aged 2.
The reasoning behind that was that my Grandparents used to holiday in North Wales, their honeymoon was taken in Barmouth and I have a letter that suggests that it was not the only time they stayed there, and I remember Mum telling me of the wonderful holidays she spent as a child around the Llandudno area..................just a thought

I shall have to go into it all when I have time, I am supposed to be catching up with the accounts today, not doing family research (but I think you all know which I'd rather be doing ;-)
Thanks to all
Liz x

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 29 Jun 2011 23:13

Great news!

I am surprised that her name wasn't changed though.

Rose

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 30 Jun 2011 08:08

Yes, it is suprising, but I'm very glad they didn't!

Maybe Jean Williams and her condition were known to my grandparents and it was all arranged that they would take the baby and asked for her to be registered with THEIR chosen name.

That is probably a flight of fancy!

She was registered on 25th September by Jean Williams and Baptised on 30th September with my grandparents stated as the parents (between 5 and 6 weeks) so maybe she intended to keep the baby originally but found she couldnt cope or was poorly.

Doubt I'll ever know

Liz

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 30 Jun 2011 08:19

Hi Angela
Sorry, I missed your post in my excitement!
I did get in touch with the register office, but they didn't find anything and I also checked the adoption indexes in Birmingham just in case she was officially adopted at a later date (from when it first became official up to 1944 when she would have turned 21)
But thanks for your suggestion
Liz

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 30 Jun 2011 16:59

I'm not sure about that, it was something that puzzled me too.

But as her first passport of her own (I presume she would have been on her parents prior to that) would have been just after the war, I wonder if she would have been able to use her identity papers and then when it was near running out, she would have just renewed it (I think she always had a passport when we were growing up, although seldom used)

It must have been something that many children, prior to official adoption, came up against.

Maybe my grandparents did tell Mum and had a copy of the certificate I have now, stashed away somewhere which she could have got rid of when they died. I emptied her house after she died and never found one.

I really must attack my trunk and have another sort through in case Ive missed something though.
Liz