Genealogy Chat

Just for info. There was/still is a road called The Green in Darlaston, Staffordshire near the boundary with Willenhall. Some of my rellies were born there.
Ann

Most probably a gun screwer. Part of the gunmaking trade which was a major employer in the area.
Guns weren´t made as one operation. Each bit was made separately, often in small workshops attached to the worker´s home. There were gun screwers, gun filers, gun stockers etc etc.
Definitely not what you were thinking AoGG
Marion

Thank you all so much for your help. I shall order a marriage cert.
I did know that most of the family worked for a company that made screws,as my grandmother told me she was a screw sorter as a young girl.thanks again
John

Can't find them in 1861.

???
Births Dec 1857
Hall James Walsall 6b 459

1871 England Census
Name: Samuel Hall
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Ann Hall
Gender: Male
Where born: Smethwick, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Harborne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Smethwick
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Cranford Street

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Hall 38 (c1833) - married; Darlaston
James Hall 14 - Iron heater; Darlaston
Elizabeth Hall 8 - scholar; Smethwick, Staffordshire
Samuel Hall 1

Births Jun 1868
HALL Samuel Walsall 6b 620

Births Jun 1872
HALL Annie Walsall 6b 678

Walsall is registration district for Darlaston.

This looks like it might be the family.

1881 England Census
Name: Sam Hall
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Ann Hall
Gender: Male
Where born: Smethwick, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Harborne
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Cranford Terrace

Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Hall 49 (c1832) - widow; Charwoman; Darleston, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Hall 17 - Iron Screwer; Smethwick, Staffordshire
Kate Hall 8 - scholar; Smethwick, Staffordshire
Edward Fisher 29 - visitor; Boot Rivetter (Out Of Employ); Smethwick, Staffordshire
Mary Fisher 24 - visitor; Smethwick, Staffordshire
Sam Hall 12
Annie Hall 9 - scholar; Smethwick, Staffordshire
Jno.James Fisher 2 - grandson; Smethwick, Staffordshire

John, I think we need to know what facts you have.

Is the marriage posted by safc correct? If so, I think you need to get the marriage certificate for them.

I can't see any point in going further without it.

Meg

Re: Hall family
I have Sam Hall b.1869 Darlston
Annie b.1872 do
Kate b.1872 do
Regards
John

1861: Willinhall Road [and underneath is written] commonly called Solomon's Temple. At the top of the page two households have the address, Green. As Ann Marlow's address in 1851.
Ann Hall >>>William???<<< abt 1825 Darlaston, Staffordshire, England Wife Darlaston, Staffordshire
William Hall Ann abt 1821 Darlaston, Staffordshire, England Head Darlaston, Staffordshire - Iron Furnace Man

Although this doesn't look as if it is them as here they are in 1851:
Willm Hall Ann abt 1823 Leominster, Staffordshire, England Head Darlaston, Staffordshire
Ann Hall Willm abt 1827 Darlaston, Staffordshire, England Wife Darlaston, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Hall Willm, Ann abt 1847 Darlaston, Staffordshire, England Daughter Darlaston, Staffordshire


John, I think we need to go to a census that has one of the children of James & Ann whom you know you're connected to. Will you give us his/her name & place of birth?

Ozi

Chuckle, chuckle.

wonder what a screwer is? answers on a postcard please!!!

OK, it's becoming confusing now.

1851 England Census
Name: Ann Marlow
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Marlow
Mother's name: Susanna Marlow
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Darlaston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Pardoes Lane

Occupation: Screwer

Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Darlaston
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Marlow 47 - C. Miner; Manchester
Susanna Marlow 43
Ann Marlow 26
William Marlow 17
Thomas Marlow 13
Mary Ann Marlow 8
Eliza Marlow 5

????

1851 England Census
Name: James Hall
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Hall
Mother's name: Mary Hall
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Darlaston
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Green

Occupation: Screw maker

Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Darlaston <<<<<<<<<<<<
Household Members: Name Age
William Hall 45 - Cut[??] Nail Maker; Lane End, Yorkshire
Mary Hall 42 - Darlaston, Staffordshire
John Hall 22 - Horfield, Worcestershire
Charles Hall 17
James Hall 15
Benjn Hall 13
George Hall 11
William Hall 9
Mary Hall 7
Job Hall 5 - Dukinfield, Cheshire

All others born West Bromwich, Staffordshire.

Except AGG, wouldn't she be a Hall by then?

Looks like we're looking for a James Hall that's 10 years younger.

Ozi

hmmm - that means the one I posted is a possible?

Darleston, Birmingham possibly

?? 1881

Hannah MARLOW Head W Female 50 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Frederick G. MARLOW Son U Male 30 Aston, Warwick, England National Schoolmaster
Lucy J. MARLOW Daur U Female 27 B'ham St George, Warwick, England Assistant Schoolmistress
Thomas G. MARLOW Son U Male 18 B'ham St George, Warwick, England Pupil Teacher
William F. MARLOW Son Male 13 B'ham Bishops Ryder, Warwick, England Scholar
Maria MARLOW Daur Female 10 B'ham St Marys, Warwick, England Scholar
Arthur MARLOW Son Male 7 B'ham St Marys, Warwick, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling Church Road
Census Place Arlecdon, Cumberland, England
Family History Library Film 1342250
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5183 / 22
Page Number 37

can you give us a location please?

????
Groom's Name: James Hall
Groom's Birth Date: 1835
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 21
Bride's Name: Ann Marlow
Bride's Birth Date: 1834
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 22
Marriage Date: 1856
Marriage Place: West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng.
Groom's Father's Name: William Hall
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Thomas Marlow
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M05521-3
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1526219
Reference Number: 2:3QQ0K9N
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

Trying to find any information on the parents of a James Hall, b.c1825, and his wife Ann Marlow b.1830