Genealogy Chat

Thanks so much to you all I woulld never have solved it. I will ask my mum if they knew anyone in Lancaster at the time, she hasnt volunteered the information but sometimes a little bit of information jogs her memory and she remembers more things.
Thanks also for other Mary Dent sedbergh will try and find if she related.
george

absolutely clear as a bell on the image.

The two follow each other in the typed record from GRO

Mary A Dent age 79 Sedbergh

Mary E Dent age 58 Lancaster


No doubt whatsoever ......... no possible way one could have been mistranscribed for the other!




sylvia

I think we agree there Sylvia. It's the only thing I can think of which might fit. Just one of those funny co-incidences that there was another Mary Dent who died the same time in Sedburgh!
Jan

I would say that you are interpreting the freebmd information incorrectly.


It is much more likely that it is the Mary E who died in Lancaster, than that the Registrar in Sedbergh got the middle initial and the age so very wrong.


OH's family comes from Westmorland, including some from Sedbergh area ........ and there has always seemed to be a very close relationship for centuries between people living in Westmorland and Lancaster ........... I know why OH's family is so closely connected, but have no idea why so many other people also show that connection.



I would suggest that she was for some reason visiting Lancaster or within the Lancaster registration district (??on holiday??), died there, so her death was registered there. Then she was taken home to be buried.


That is not unknown!

My own brother dropped dead in a hotel in one jurisdiction, was declared dead in a hospital in another, his death was registered that jurisdiction. His cremation and service was in a 3rd, and his ashes were buried in a 4th jurisdiction. Try and sort that one out in 100 years time!

It was actually very simple ........ he had gone away for the weekend, the hospital he was taken to was very close to the hotel, but in another registration district. His cremation took place in the jurisdiction where his estranged wife lived. And he was buried in the same grave as our parents!


The only way to sort out your problem is to buy the death certificate ........... it is possible to ask for an extra check, eg, name of person reporting death. BUT you really do not know who reported the death, so that is a bit iffy.


If it was me, and I really wanted to know ..................... I'd splurge the £7 to get the certificate. But do it soon ..... prices go up on April 6!





sylvia

Mad as it sounds, is there any way she could have died in Lancaster - visiting maybe? - and was buried back home? Or maybe back in Westmorland?

Name: Mary E Dent
Death Registration Month/Year: 1931
Age at death (estimated): 58
Registration district: West Ward
Inferred County: Westmorland
Volume: 10b
Page: 785

Jan

The Mary A. Dent who died in Sedburgh I reckon:

1911

DENT, John Head Married M 56 1855 Farmer Sheep Dairy Yorkshire Sedbergh VIEW
DENT, Mary Ann Wife Married 36 years F 58 1853 Yorkshire Sedbergh VIEW
DENT, William Ralph Nephew Single M 26 1885 Servant On Farm Yorkshire Sedbergh VIEW
BANKS, Agnes Servant Single F 28 1883 General Servant Domestic Yorkshire Sedbergh VIEW
FRANKLAND, Percy Faraday Visitor Married M 52 1859 Professor Of Chemistry University Of Birmingham South Hampstead London VIEW
FRANKLAND, Grace Coleridge Visitor Married
28 years F 52 1859 Wimbledon Surrey VIEW
FRANKLAND, Edward Percy Visitor Single M 27 1884 Research Assistant University Of Birmingham Paddington London VIEW

Registration District:
Sedbergh Sub District:
Sedbergh EnumerationDistrict:
4 Parish:
Sedbergh

Address:
Huldale Newbiggin - on - Lune County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

no I didnt have it thanks thats great.

Glad its not only me that cant solve it but thanks for trying I appreciate help. Thanks

Just in case you don't have this:

1911

DENT, Thomas Head Married M 37 1874 Joiner And Builder Yorks Sedbergh VIEW
DENT, Mary E Wife Married 13 years F 36 1875 Westmorland Holme VIEW
DENT, John Son M 11 1900 School Yorks Sedbergh VIEW
DENT, Alice Daughter F 10 1901 Yorks Sedbergh VIEW
DENT, James R Son M 8 1903 Yorks Sedbergh VIEW
ATKINSON, Charles E Boarder Single M 18 1893 Bank Clerk Cumberland Keswick VIEW

Registration District:
Sedbergh Sub District:
Sedbergh EnumerationDistrict:
1 Parish:
Sedbergh

Address:
Bainbridge Road Sedbergh County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

I do see what you mean. Bit of a puzzle this, you are right! Might need a clearer head for this one.
jan

westholme is in Kendal area in Cumbria and she was buried in Sedbergh Yorkshire.

OK, sorry! But can you say where she was buried please?
Jan

Sorry i am confused I didnt change original message,

Where is Westholme?? And where was she buried?

i did wonder about that is it possible that the record is wrong ?

George, you have changed your original message I see! There is no confusion on the part of the transcribers, as they have correctly recorded what is on the original entry.
Jan

The info comes from the gravestone that I have seen myself and also from a family member . The date of birth checks out and the age is right on her marriage.
she was born
RUTTER mary elizabeth dec 1874 westholme
married Thomas DENT sep 1897 10B 1089

Maybe these 2 Mary's have got mixed up somewhere??

Deaths Mar 1933

Dent Mary A 79 Sedbergh 9a 2
Dent Mary E 58 Lancaster 8e 1235

Jan

The original on Freebmd definitely says 79. Where is the other record from?
Jan

Sorry I am new to this,
Dent Mary Elizabeth died 08/03/1933 age 58 Sedbergh
but fmbd gives it as
Dent Mary A qtr mar 1933 age 79 Sedbergh
I was wondering how these records are compiled originally is it possible the page is wrong.
Or what am I doing wrong.
Thank you