Genealogy Chat

Hi Margaret

i live in Bristol just not to good at all this research stuff :-(

what part of Bristol does your daughter live and how old is her father in law ?

Nicola

Just for info, my daughter lives in Bristol, her partner was born and brought up there, his father also who is still alive. Can we help?

Margaret

i just googled and some great pics :-)

google Brewers Guild house Old Bristol

Morning all :-)

I'm off to Bristol Records office now
Will they have maps do u think showing where Brewers Place was?

If you are going to Bedminster try looking for the local history society in the phone book before you go.

I was able to buy maps ( 17 in all) from the local bookshop in my area of interest. They were put out by the history society and went back to 1600s when very few houses were in the eventual town.
They are very interesting even naming the people who lived in the houses on the early maps

Wow thank you so much for your help :-)
I have ordered the marriage cert and will be
off to bedminster in the morning to find that
address, you've all been so kind I gave up
looking for this family 2 years ago and my
tree came to a standstill and now I can start
all over again,
I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks again
NIcola ;-} x

Ere ya go..
1911

William Head Married M 25 1886 Hawker Vegetables Gloucestershire Bristol VIEW
COLE, Caroline Wife Married
4 years F 21 1890 Gloucestershire Bristol VIEW
COLE, Ellen Daughter F 2 1909 Gloucestershire Bristol VIEW
COLE, Alice Daughter F 1 1910 Gloucestershire Bristol VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
14911 Reference:
RG14PN14911 RG78PN903 RD319 SD3 ED27 SN69

Registration District:
Bristol Sub District:
Bedminster EnumerationDistrict:
27 Parish:
Bristol

Address:
6 Brewers Place Bedminster Bristol

Nicola.
You will probably have to ask for a 1911 census look up on another thread. Your request might not be seen on this thread by those who can help

Or like the rest of us £6 95 for 60 credits and look yourself.

30 credits gives you the census image . This gives all the information you need. Its also written in householders own hand. It tells how long the couple have been married,how many children the couple have and how many have died. As well as address and occupation. Once you have paid you can look again at that image for free.
If you dont want to use 30 credits then 10 gets you the details such as how long married plus all the usual details except the extra ones on the image

Is there anyone who has access to 1911 census ....and would it give an address or occupation?

Hi

Yes i think i will order the certificate now, it seems most likely.
Catherine Mead St is only 5 mins away from Spring St and Whitehouse St which are the addresses i have on the other 2 certificates i have
thanks for that
Nicola :-)

Nicola,

I don't think you are missing anything, it is just a matter of wading through the treacle.

I wouldn't get too wound up about the spelling of Cole(s) Discrepancies in spelling such as this are actually very common. It wasn't until well into the 20th century that name spellings became formalised in the way we know today. In fact, if searching on Ancestry I would always enter the name as Cole*

Just re-checking the details I would now order the marriage certificate as follows:-

Marriages Jun 1907
Bristol 6a 352
COLES Caroline
COLE William


This will provide the fathers names to enable you to go further back - especially necessary for William.

Caroline's parents are most likely to be Robert and Ellen Coles, living at
23 Catherine Mead St in 1901. Going back, 1891 has Caroline recorded as Cary, aged 1 In 1881 and 1871 you find Robert living with his parents Robert b abt 1819 and Jane Coles (Cole in 1871)

One you have Williams father's name with some certainty then it should be easy to go back through the censuses.

Hmmmmm lol
can you see why this is taking me round in circles and driving me mad :-(

all i actually have is Edna's birth cert where both parents are clearly Coles
and also Edna's marriage cert where her father is William Coles

and yet cant seem to find either parent............i must be missing something

I have found

Iris Coles 1923 6a 168 COLES BRISTOL
Arthur Coles 1928 6a 169 COLES BRISTOL
Doreen Coles 1934 6a 320 COLES BRISTOL

no sign of an Enid though

Just been talking to a family member who is sure William & Caroline had at least 4 other children....
Iris,Enid Doreen and Arthur :-(

I would guess that William and Caroline and cousins of some sort.

I have at least two examples of that sort of marriage in my tree.

A likely candidate
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Caroline Coles
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1890
Christening Date: 4 Jun 1890
Christening Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Father's Name: Robert Coles
Mother's Name: Ellen

More than one William.

This is for free:

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
HOUSEHOLD COLE ALICE F 1910 1 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD COLE ELLEN F 1909 2 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD COLE WILLIAM M 1886 25 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD COLE CAROLINE F 1890 21 Bristol Gloucestershire

Rose

Hi Barry
thanks again :-)

Barry
thank you for that, sounds promising :-)
can I ask where you found it.....I only have
limited access to ancestry
NIcola