Genealogy Chat

I've got a Minnie who was really an Annie - just to give another line of thought.

thank you all x

I agree that there is something not right about the ages on the census. Also I think when twins were born they put the time of birth on the certificate so it might be something to look out for.

THere is only 1 Frank born in Ledbury though. I suggest you put checking point of at least his father's name - that way it will save you £4 if it is the wrong one.

Thanks all, great input to the thread. I was going for minnies birth as there are a couple of Frank's born around the right time. Wanted to be 100 % sure before sending for cert as this is research for friend of my moms. don't want her spending more money than she has to as she is a pensioner.

I think there's a mistake in the 1891 census. Frank is listed as 11 in 1901 and 22 in 1911, making this birth more likely:

Births Sep 1889
Gladwin Frank Ledbury 6a 445

Rose

can't find Annie either - they don't seem to have registered the later children after they moved from Devon

still think birth cert of William or Alice is the best bet for mary's name

Thanks Ozi, but I'm not totally convinced its her as I still can't find twin brother.

I agree with Janet, often Minnie is used for a woman with a small build.

My great-aunt Edith was called Minnie in the censuses where she was married. She then had a daughter who was actually called Minnie.

Update: Looks like you've found her, Selena.

Ozi.

Any reason they could be in London?

Births Mar 1891
Gladwin Minnie Isabel Wandsworth 1d 774

if it is mary's maiden name you are after I would suggest sending for Williams birth certificate

Births Mar 1880 (>99%)
Gladwin William James E. Stonehouse 5b 320

1881
William GLADWIN Head M Male 32 Woolhope, Hereford, England Boot & Shoemaker
Mary GLADWIN Wife M Female 33 Plymouth
Alice GLADWIN Dau Female 8 Howeton, Devon, England Scholar
W.J. GLADWIN Son Male 1 Howeton, Devon, England

Source Information:
Dwelling Bath Street
Census Place Hereford St Owen, Hereford, England
Family History Library Film 1341625
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2595 / 93
Page Number 21

not sure that the Frank you are looking for is the Herform 1890 one. If he was 1mth old on the 1891 census he would have been born in the early months of 1891. Also if he was born in Ledbury that is a reg district in its own right. Can't find Annie's reg either.

Alice & William James were registered in Devon (e Stonehouse) - cf 1881 census

Philomena? Of course she could have just been petite and hence the name.

Thanks all

Here's the brother

Births Dec 1890
Gladwin Frank Hereford 6a 427

still no sign of Minnie, wonder if her age is a mistake?

Hi Linda,
I have just looked at the birth pages for 1891 Jan & april qtrs.
I could not find them in Jan, in April the page with Gla seeems to
be missing! It could be there but sometimes the pages are muddled.
I also found the death for a Florence May, but no birth.
Maureen

I am assuming from the 1891 Minnie and Frank were twins. I'm looking for a birth ref for them to get mothers maiden name. There are a couple of Franks which could match so thought by getting minnies birth it might be easier. famous last words eh?

thanks again

don't know how likely this is but there is this death ref:

Deaths Sep 1896 (>99%)
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Gladwin Florence May 4 Ledbury 6a 254

I am struggling to find a corresponding birth ref, perhaps she was adopted into the family

thanks Helen.

1891

Name: Minnie Gladwin
Age: 1/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Ledbury, Herefordshire, England

Civil parish: Ledbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Ledbury
Town: Ledbury
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England



Registration district: Ledbury
Sub-registration district: Ledbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Gladwin 42
Mary Gladwin 41
Alice Gladwin 20
William Gladwin 11
Annie Gladwin 9
Frank Gladwin 1/12
Minnie Gladwin 1/12




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2052; Folio 53; Page 10; GSU roll: 6097162.


1901

Name: Frank Gladwin
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Herefordshire, England

Civil parish: Ledbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Ledbury St Michael
Town: Ledbury
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England



Employment status: View image

Registration district: Ledbury
Sub-registration district: Ledbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 81
Household Members: Name Age
William Gladwin 51
Mary Gladwin 52
Frank Gladwin 11






Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2471; Folio: 58; Page: 13.

have you tried just searching for the surname without any first name, you'd be surprised how some names can be transcribed

if you let us have the 1891 details you have (if you have the ref numbers folio page etc too that would really help us find it) then we can have a look for you