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16 Jul 2009 19:04 |
ellusive is this one. emma jane is thought to have lived in bromyard she died in 1933 giving birth to her second child, child also died, i cannot find any history of her prior to her death in 1933 except that she worked in bromyard also. any help greatly appreciated
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BatMansDaughter
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16 Jul 2009 19:08 |
How old was she when she died??
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16 Jul 2009 19:14 |
I saw that 1 too Jonesey, wonder if Philpotts is her maiden name???
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16 Jul 2009 19:15 |
Maybe????????????????
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1901 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NORBURY Albert Edward Bromyard 6a 769 PHILPOTTS Emma Jane Bromyard 6a 769
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16 Jul 2009 19:18 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1876 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philpott Emma Jane Bromyard 6a 561
That would make her 57 when she died??? Must be the wrong lady............ suppose we'll wait for Christine.
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christine
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17 Jul 2009 15:35 |
thanks to you all emma philpots one L , was 29 when she died on 14th april 1933 she married horace henry price of worcester its finding her before that i have a problem great you are helping its really got my goat this one.xxx
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17 Jul 2009 15:51 |
Hi,
Have you got the marriage cert.... it should tell you her fathers name and oocupation;
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1925 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JONES Elsie M Palfrey Bromyard 6a 1327 Palfrey William R Jones Bromyard 6a 1327 Philpotts Emma J Price Bromyard 6a 1327 Price Horace H Philpotts Bromyard 6a 1327
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17 Jul 2009 15:59 |
Have you ruled this one out???????
1911 census;
HOUSEHOLD PHILLPOTTS EMMA JANE F 1902 9 Martley Worcestershire
Possible others with her;
HOUSEHOLD PHILLPOTTS EDITH MARY F 1906 5 Martley Worcestershire HOUSEHOLD PHILLPOTTS MARY ANN F 1865 46 Martley Worcestershire HOUSEHOLD PHILLPOTTS THOMAS M 1836 75 Martley Worcestershire
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17 Jul 2009 16:11 |
Don't forget that when searching for names there are often mis-spellings, especially like a name Philpotts.... see your title, you've even done it yourself. So don't rule out the 1911 census.
Even ages can vary, especially with us ladies, I often (try and) forget how old I am!!!
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17 Jul 2009 16:12 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1901 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PHILPOTTS Emma Jane Martley 6c 265
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17 Jul 2009 16:18 |
1901 England Census about Mary Ann Philpott Name: Mary Ann Philpott Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas Gender: Female Where born: Collings Green Martley, Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Martley Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Martley County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street Address: berrow ????????? GREEN
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Martley Sub-registration district: Martley ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Philpott 70 Mary Ann Philpott 33 Fanny Philpott 10 Norah Philpott 2
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17 Jul 2009 16:27 |
Think this is Thomas;
1881 England Census about Thomas Philpotts Name: Thomas Philpotts Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Gender: Male Where born: Cradley, Hereford, England Civil parish: Cradley County/Island: Herefordshire Country: England Street Address: Stifford Bridge Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: General Labourer Registration district: Bromyard Sub-registration district: Bishops Frome ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Lot Powell 43 Elizabeth Powell 44 John P. Powell 18 Emily M. Powell 13 Alice Pugh 16 Thomas Mills 23 Charles Philpotts 56 Thomas Philpotts 46 He lives in Vineyard Barn, by himself. Charles Philpotts is living by himself in the next barn, he was also born Cradley, Hereford. so maybe his brother??
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17 Jul 2009 16:28 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1888 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BULLOCK Mary Ann Worcester 6c 480 <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Philpotts Thomas Worcester 6c 480 <<<<<<<<<<<<<< SPRAGG Esther Worcester 6c 480 WALKER George Worcester 6c 480
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christine
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17 Jul 2009 19:17 |
thank you for your help in this, such knowledge, i have just paid £5 in credits , but it just shows you one page and that 's often small, and it eats the credits so quickly, i have not been able to find anything to do with the philpots i dont know how you managed it.
anyway to answer your question i only have her daughters birth cert her daughters marriage cert and emma death cert . there is nothng on them to say who her parents were or her birthday so it is a bug bere, i will press on with what you have given me if you find anymore please let me know thanking you in anticipation hope to hear from you soon kindest regards chris xx
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17 Jul 2009 19:31 |
Hi Christine,
You really need to order the Marriage certificate of Emma Jane.......... I would hate to send you barking up the wrong tree!!!
You can order on-line at The General Register, costs £7.00 and takes about 1 week to arrive.. just tick that you know the Area/District, or they'll charge you more. Once you have that if her father is Thomas, then hopefully my work will fall into place for you.
Dee xx
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17 Jul 2009 19:32 |
Are you searching the records from this site??? If so it's sooooooooo expensive, I use ancestry.co.uk, works out much cheaper for me, and they do a 14 day FREE trial!!!
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christine
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19 Jul 2009 10:54 |
still looking for emma jane phillpots, denise nan's mom emma jane died in childbirth in 1933 so she never knew her mother, her father refused to talk to her about it. nan is now nearly 84 so i thought it would be nice if she could find out who this missing family is before she leaves us all. i have been to see her and looked at all the things she has but no record of who her mom was. then all of a sudden she said "oh" she had a sister who had a daughter called gladys, i think this is the only lead that i have. i have her birth year of 1902 so one of the families that you sent me looks very positive nan,s middle name is mary and the mother of one of the families from martley was called mary, any way if you can trace emma through edith mary 1906 philpotts i am in your debt forever you know so much more than i do, i may never find her mom for her. so anything you can come up with would be most appreciated kindest regards chrisxxx
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19 Jul 2009 11:27 |
Hi Christine,
On the 1911 census details that I posted earlier for you Edith Mary, born 1906 is with Emma, this could be her marriage;
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1929 ---- Chambers George W Philpotts Leominster 6a 1177 Philpotts Edith M Chambers Leominster 6a 1177
Son from this marriage??
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Births Mar 1931 ------------------------- Chambers John Philpotts Bromyard 6a 694
But I can't see a Gladys???
Dee xx
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19 Jul 2009 11:52 |
Christine........... look what I found;
England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Emma Jane Philpotts Name: Emma Jane Philpotts Gender: Female Birth Date: abt 1902 Age: 23 Father's Name: Thomas Philpotts Spouse's Name: Horace Henry Price Spouse's Age: 26 Spouse's Father's Name: Edward Price Marriage Date: 8 Jul 1925
I would say that this confirms that all the info for Emma Jane in the 1911 census is her and then tracing the family back to Mary Ann Bullock and Thomas Philpotts in the previous census would be correct..... you now have Emma Janes' parents.
Dee xx
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19 Jul 2009 11:55 |
Emma's Grandparents........ now you see where the name Jane came from;
1841 England Census about Thomas Philpotts Name: Thomas Philpotts Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Gender: Male Where born: Herefordshire, England Civil parish: East and West Cradley Hundred: Radlow County/Island: Herefordshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Bromyard Sub-registration district: Bishops Frome Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Philpotts 38 <<<<<<< Father Jane Philpotts 30 <<<<<< Mother John Philpotts 11 Mary Philpotts 7 Thomas Philpotts 4 Caleb Philpotts 1
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