Genealogy Chat

1850
Alanson Baldwin Ticonderoga, Essex, NY abt 1819 New York
Benj H Baldwin Ticonderoga, Essex, NY abt 1814 New York
Catherine Baldwin Ticonderoga, Essex, NY abt 1845 New York
Charles H Baldwin Ticonderoga, Essex, NY abt 1850 New York
Evalyn Baldwin Ticonderoga, Essex, NY abt 1842 New York
Hanna Baldwin Ticonderoga, Essex, NY abt 1848 New York
Lucinda Baldwin Ticonderoga, Essex, NY abt 1829 New York
Mary Baldwin Ticonderoga, Essex, NY abt 1815 New York
Melissa Baldwin Ticonderoga, Essex, NY abt 1819 Vermont
William G Baldwin Ticonderoga, Essex, NY abt 1823 New York
Wm H Baldwin Ticonderoga, Essex, NY abt 1846 New York

1860
William G Baldwin Ticonderoga, Essex, NY 37 abt 1823 New York Male
Lucinda Baldwin Ticonderoga, Essex, NY 28 abt 1832 New York Female
Charles Baldwin Ticonderoga, Essex, NY 10 abt 1850 New York Male
Minnie Baldwin Ticonderoga, Essex, NY 3 abt 1857 New York Female
Did the rest of the Baldwin's move to Canada; move elsewhere; or, was their name spelled incorrectly?
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We're a good combination, aren't we Margaret? :)

ID: I27848
Name: William BALDWIN 1
Sex: M
Birth: ABT 1842
Residence: 1876 Ottawa, , CANADA

Father: Alanson Hovey BALDWIN b: 31 DEC 1819
Mother: Melissa PRIOR b: in Prob Ticonderoga, NY

Marriage 1 Mary SMITH b: in Ottawa, , CANADA
Children
Alanson BALDWIN
Benjamin BALDWIN

Sources:
Title: Book - Baldwin Genealogy from 1500 to 1881
Author: Charles Candee Baldwin
Publication: Reprint - Higginson Book Co., 148 Washington St.,Salem MA 01970
Repository:
Note: My library
Media: Book
Page: 714

Like Lisa, I'm going backwards because it's so difficult to find recent records in Canada.
A tree on Rootsweb:
ID: I24440
Name: William Henry BALDWIN
Sex: M
Birth: ABT 1847 in Ticonderoga, New York
Reference Number: 24440

Father: Alanson H. BALDWIN b: 31 DEC 1819 in Ticonderoga, New York
Mother: Melissa D. PRIOR b: 17 JUN 1819 in Cambridge, Vermont

ID: I24437
Name: Alanson H. BALDWIN
Sex: M
Birth: 31 DEC 1819 in Ticonderoga, New York
Reference Number: 24437

Father: Guy BALDWIN b: ABT 1781 in Dorset, Vermont
Mother: Olive DELANO b: 1785 in Shoreham, Vermont

Marriage 1 Melissa D. PRIOR b: 17 JUN 1819 in Cambridge, Vermont
Married: 23 JUN 1844 in Ticonderoga, New York
Children
Kate BALDWIN b: ABT 1845 in Ticonderoga, New York
William Henry BALDWIN b: ABT 1847 in Ticonderoga, New York
Hanna Adaline BALDWIN b: ABT 1849 in Ticonderoga, New York
Pyra E. BALDWIN b: ABT 1851 in Ticonderoga, New York

Someone posted information about Alanson Baldwin on FamilySearch. Sending their name and address by pm.

Getting back to the post with Ticonderoga, New York...the reason I thought it might be Ticonderoga, instead of the town in New Zealand, is because my favourite type of pencil to use is Ticonderoga.

I am researching Alanson, to see if he moved his family to Canada. He is on the 1850 census...occupation: pencil maker. ;)

Had a look at the original of that 1881 census. William was a free thinker but the rest of the family were R.C.
They were:
William, 34
Mary, 28
Robert A., 9
Benjamin H., 6
William C., 4
Clayton I or J?, 2
Mary L., less than a year, born Mar.

I know some people wonder why I go backward, instead of going forward when trying to help someone.

In this case, I cannot find anything for living people.

However...
According to the 1901 Canadian census, your Clayton's father was William, born c1847, in the U.S., he immigrated in 1855. He possibly was born in Ticonderoga, New York. Childrens names included: Lorene?, Robert, Benjamin, William, Clayton James, Mary (Louise?), Katherine P, Pyra A, Laura Florence.

On Rootsweb, I found Baldwin children born in Ticonderoga to Alanson H Baldwin:
Cathaeine, born about 1840
Hanna Adaline, about 1849
Kate, about 1845
Pyra E, about 1851
William Henry, born about 1847

Also in Ticonderoga, but born to William Guy Baldwin (possibly Alanson's brother):
Charles Harman, born 1850
Cora Eunice, born 1860
Mary Louisa, born 1855
William Guy, born 1864

Born to Lorenzo Baldwin:
Lorin C., born 1849

With names so similar to your family, and with the possibility of William being born in Ticonderoga, they could be related.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi
The researcher has quite a few names she's researched, so she may not know too much about the Baldwin's.
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Hi Margaret. :)

1881 Canadian census. Love his religion, free thinker! I thought he was Roman Catholic?

Name: Baldwin, WilliamSex: MAge: 34Place of Birth: U.S. (USA)Religion: Free ThinkerEthnic Origin: FrenchOccupation: Mill OwnerProvince: OntarioDistrict Name: Ottawa (City) (105)Sub-District Name: Victoria Ward (B)Division: 1Page: 44Microfilm: C-13229Reference: RG31 - Statistics Canada View

The 1901 census says that William was born in US, and emigrated 1855, rest of the family born in Ontario.

Oh, I'm feeling bad! After offering my services, I've found absolutely nothing, zilch, nada! This is in my "neck of the woods" too. I live just south of Ottawa, been to Rouses Point ( the border crossing) many times.
The only thing I can say is that it looks like the daughter Pyra that Lisa found was Perra A. on the 1901 census. (Yes I think that was 1901.) and possibly the sister she's going to join, Lorena was Mary L. on the census.
I'm just going to have a look at the original of that census, see if I can learn anything more.

Could not find Clayton/James in 1911! Are you sure it was "Balderon"? (I've been looking for family members, with no luck, so far.)

Found this. Doesn't help for your rellie search, but in case you don't have it:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: William Henry Baldwin
Arrival Date: December 28 1911
Birth Year: abt 1847
Age: 64
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Southampton
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: American
Ship Name: Olympic
Port of Arrival: New York, NY
Nativity: New Zealand
Line: 26
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_1791
Birth Location: New Zealand
Birth Location Other: ziconderrga
Page Number: 83
Married
Mechanic Engineer
Nationality (Country of which citizen or subject): Canada
Race or People: American
Last Permanent Address: Canada Ottawa
Name nearest relative or friend of whence alien came: Mrs. W.H. Baldwin, Ottawa
Final Destination: Canada Ottawa
Place of Birth: "New Zenlar" Ticonderoga
There is a Ticonderoga in New York. 1901 Canadian image (I believe) showed US as his place of birth.
The man above his name (Thomas Ahearn) was 54 years old, an electrical engineer and was also returning to Ottawa.

I quickly looked through your information and don't believe I saw this sister:

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: Pyra A Baldwin
Arrival Date: Sep 1914
Age: 27
Birth Date: abt 1887
Birth Country: Canada
Gender: Female
Race/Nationality: English
Port of Arrival: Rouses Point, New York, USA
Occupation: Probationary Nurse?
Address whence alien came: Father William H., 176 Bronson Ave, Ottawa (same address as is on one of the census returns)
Final Destination: NY New York
In New York in 1912
Whether joining rellie or friend (for this trip): Sister - Lorena

Hi Margaret & Lisa,

This is what I have so far. In addition I have two newspaper cuttings re Williams war exploits and a copy of his death registration in 1943. I have a copy of his baptism and also Claytons.
I have a copy of Clayton's marriage registration and also William's sister Cath's birth registration.

01 Census of Canada
this must be 1911 census?
 
Baldwin James 32 Ontario Ottawa Dalhousie ward 25 47 16 Baldwin Helima 30 Ontario Ottawa Dalhousie ward 25 47 17 Baldwin Willian 1 6/12 Ontario Ottawa Dalhousie ward 25 47 18 Baldwin Cathrine 3 Ontario Ottawa Dalhousie ward 25 47 19

From genes reunited. Looked up for me on ancestry

about Clayton J Baldwin
Name: Clayton J Baldwin
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 22
Birth Date: 23 Feb 1879
Birthplace: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Nationality: Canada (Canadian)
Religion: Roman Catholic
Occupation: Machinist
Province: Ontario
District: Ottawa (City/Cité)
District Number: 100
Sub-District: Ottawa (City/Cité) Wellington (Ward/Quartier)
Sub-District Number: G-4
Family Number: 103
Page: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Baldwin 53
Mary Ann Baldwin 48
Robert S Baldwin 28
Benjamin H Baldwin 27
William Baldwin 24
Clayton J Baldwin 22
Mary L Baldwin 20
Kate P Baldwin 17
Perra A Baldwin 14
Emma F Baldwin 12

but marriage says christina not helena


Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
about Clayton James Baldwin
Name: Clayton James Baldwin
Birth Place: Province Ontario
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Father Name: Wm Hy Baldwin
Mother Name: Mary Ann Smith Baldwin
Spouse Name: Christina H. Meagher
Spouse's Age: 26
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Spouse Birth Place: Province Ontario
Spouse Father Name: John Meagher
Spouse Mother Name: Johanna Donovan
Marriage Date: 19 Jun 1907
Marriage Place: Carleton
Marriage County: Carleton
Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_127


Ontario French Catholic Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1747-1967
about Clayton James Baldwin
Name: Clayton James Baldwin
Event Year: 1872-1891
Event: Naissance (Birth)
Religion: Catholique
Place of Worship or Institution: Ottawa; Ottawa (St-Jean-Baptiste)
Province: Ontario

Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1909
about Cath Helena Baldwin
Name: Cath Helena Baldwin
Date of Birth: 13 Apr 1908
Gender: Female
Birth County: Carleton
Father's Name: Clayton James Baldwin
Mother's Name: Helena Meagher
Roll Number: VRBCAN1908_102536

births only go up to 1909 unfortunalty



wifes name is definatley helena on census and william is 1 not 13 so think this is the family with clayton going by his middle name james


1911 Census of Canada
about James Balderon
Name: James Balderon (Baldwin)
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 32
Birth Date: Feb 1879
Birthplace: Ontario
Family Number: 493
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Selima
Tribal: Irish
Province: Ontario
District: Ottawa City
District Number: 105
Sub-District: Dalhousie Ward
Sub-District Number: 25
Place of Habitation: 83 Preston
Census Year: 1911
Page: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Balderon 32
Selima Balderon 30 (Helena)
William Balderon 13 (should be 1 6/12?)
Cathrine Balderon 3 (Catherine)

Thanks Donna.

Until we find out if Donna would like to post her information, I'll post where I have looked:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onvsr/ (BMD)
http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/ (Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid)
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi (Rootsweb)

We do work well, don't we Margaret? :)
Sometimes your head works better than mine. :(
;)

If it's not too personal, Donna, can you post the names here? Two heads are always better than one for look-ups and I've found that Lisa's head and mine work well together.

Hi Donna:
I am not working today and was just sitting here, playing a game. Just came back on to GR. Odd that you posted your reply as I checked back here. Off to read your pm.

Hi Lisa,
Yes I would like to share information, if possible. Thank you for the offer. I have messaged you with some info.
Regards.
Donna

In addition to the phone directory, it depends on where they lived. I've found more recent information about people in British Columbia than any other province. I've found very little information about people in Nova Scotia and Quebec.

If you would like to share information, we can see if we can help. (Keeping my fingers crossed that they had an unusual surname.)

This site gives you addresses and phone numbers in Canada:

http://411ca.whitepages.com/

I have details of canadian ancestors from 1901 & 1911 census, BMD s, ww2 info and service & death details for my grandfather. Where can I go from here to trace possible relatives still surviving in Canada?
Any suggestions gratefully received.
Thanks& Regards.
Donna.