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Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 404 Send Message	Chris from Kent	Report	14 Jan 2009 19:40
	I am looking for Mary Maud Martin (she later was known as Maud) who married George Francis Vinall in 1906, in Swanley, Kent. Her father is on her wedding cert as John William Martin, Labourer, address 4 Liley Cottages, Montague Road (I presume Swanley, Kent) I cannot find Mary Maud before her marriage - any help would be appreciated. Is there a way a search can be made on the address? Thanks a lot Chris
Member Since: January 2004 Posts: 349 Send Message	Angela	Report	14 Jan 2009 20:55
Member Since: January 2004 Posts: 349 Send Message	Hi Chris Try looking on /www.freebmd.org.uk There are some births for Mary Maud Martin and one in particular 3rd quarter of 1874 in Gravesend. There are others too, but this one stood out as it was in Kent. Regards Angela
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 404 Send Message	Chris from Kent	Report	14 Jan 2009 21:03
	Hi Angela Thanks for that, the only problem I have with that is I have her death cert in 1960 and it says she was 75. Did they guess the age for the death certs? Her daughter was the informant. Chris
Member Since: December 2003 Posts: 19,537 Send Message	Cynthia	Report	14 Jan 2009 21:08
	For info. Births Sep 1874 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MARTIN Mary Maud Gravesend 2a 416 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1906 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MARTIN Maud Mary Dartford 2a 1199 Vinall George Francis Dartford 2a 1199 It may be helpful to ask for a 1901 census/address search. That should set you off on your quest. Regards.
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Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	14 Jan 2009 21:12
	Any clues with the witnesses? Rose
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Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 404 Send Message	Chris from Kent	Report	14 Jan 2009 21:29
	As Cynthia kindly suggested can anyone help with the 1901 census? Rose, the witnesses were John William Martin and Kate Georgina Wharton
Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	14 Jan 2009 21:34
	OK, That helps. Kate must be a sister: Marriages Dec 1905 MARTIN Kate Georgina Dartford 2a 1165 WHARTON Joseph Dartford 2a 1165 Rose
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Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	14 Jan 2009 21:41
	Not seeing Kate's birth either: Have you tried finding them in 1911? Then you'd get a place of birth. Rose
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Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	14 Jan 2009 21:45
	1911 has her born c1885. Rose
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Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 404 Send Message	Chris from Kent	Report	14 Jan 2009 21:47
	I never thought to look at the witnesses. Yes Kate must be a sister. I now feel a step closer. have found them on the 1911 and Maud says she was born Bermondsey, Kent.
Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	14 Jan 2009 22:02
	Got them all! England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Maud Mary Martin Name: Maud Mary Martin Year of Registration: 1885 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: St Olave Southwark (1837-1901) County: London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 276 Rose
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Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	14 Jan 2009 22:03
	England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Georgina Kate Martin Name: Georgina Kate Martin Year of Registration: 1887 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: St Olave Southwark (1837-1901) County: London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 259 Rose
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Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	14 Jan 2009 22:05
	1891 England Census about Georgenia K Martin Name: Georgenia K Martin Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Phoebe E Gender: Female Where born: Bermondsey, London, England Civil Parish: Rotherhithe Ecclesiastical parish: St Katharines Town: Rotherhithe County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub registration district: Rotherhithe ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Phoebe E Martin 32 John W Martin 11 Maud M Martin 6 Georgenia K Martin 3 Edwin A Martin 1 Elizabeth Saunderson 17 Rose
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Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	14 Jan 2009 22:06
	1901 England Census Name: Maud Martin Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Phoebe Gender: Female Where born: Bermondsey, London, England Civil Parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub registration district: Bermondsey ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 70 Household Members: Name Age John Martin 47 Brenchley, Kent, England Phoebe Martin 42 Maud Martin 16 Edwin Martin 11 George Randall 48 Rose
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Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	14 Jan 2009 22:10
	1881 England Census about John T. Martin Name: John T. Martin Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Phoebe E. Gender: Male Where born: Brenchley, Kent, England Civil Parish: Rotherhithe County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 7 Dilston Grove Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View Image Occupation: Warehouseman In Biscuit Factory Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub registration district: Rotherhithe ED, institution, or vessel: 19b Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John T. Martin 27 Phoebe E. Martin 22 John H. Martin 1 William Martin 24 John T. Thompson 21 John F. Tisson 25 William F. Drake 21 Rose
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Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	14 Jan 2009 22:13
	Marriages Dec 1878 Martin John Thomas Lambeth 1d 604 PALMER Phoebe Eliza Lambeth 1d 604 Rose
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Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	14 Jan 2009 22:19
	Looks like John William was her brother. Wonder if her father died so they moved: Deaths Dec 1902 Martin John Thomas 47 Southwark 1d 10 Rose
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Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 404 Send Message	Chris from Kent	Report	14 Jan 2009 22:32
	I cannot believe that you have found so much so quickly. I never expected to find this family. I have just been back on Freebmd and found a birth for Maud Mary 1885 in St Olave Southwark
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 404 Send Message	Chris from Kent	Report	14 Jan 2009 22:37
	Sorry Rose I have just printed out these pages and spotted that you had found the births of both Maud and Kate earlier. I cannot wait to order the certs and confirm what you have found
Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	15 Jan 2009 00:19
	I can see Phoebe in 1911 but John's not with her. Is she widowed? Rose
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