Genealogy Chat

Hi all,

I have been researching my family tree for 3 years now with varying degrees of success. Naturally my motivation keeps returning to progressing my paternal line as far as I can.

The difficulty I have is that I cannot get past a John Mawson - born circa 1782 in Yorkshire.
I have recently found two other people on ancestry with John in there trees, but they too are unable to progress this branch of the tree.

I will list here the information I have, and if anyone can offer advice or guidance it will stop me going prematurely bald.

John Mawson was born circa 1782
He married Ann Eden on 12/02/1805 in Forcett, North riding of Yorkshire.
John was buried on 12/03/1851 aged 69 years (hence approximated birth year)
Johns death certificate is mistranscribed as Mausten.

On each of Johns childrens baptism entries, John is listed as a labourer.

On the only census of use in his lifetime (1841) John is mistranscribed as John Marsden, where he is living in Eppleby, North Yorkshire and working as an agricultural labourer.


Please help,

Paul

IGI Records will list 3 John Mawson born in Yorks.
www.familysearch.org

I have viewed the ones available on their but I have no way of confirming the correct one.

When I checked the Forcett parish registers I did find an entry for....

14/05/1777 – Marriage of Thomas Mawdon and Ann Moor
have alwys been curious as to whether this could be his Mother and Father.

What next steps would folk take?

I don't believe so, the trouble is in census entries he is mistranscribed as Marsden, on his death certificate he is shown as John Mausten.

A lot of possibilities!

Paul,
I'm only 4 months into mine and in same predicament as yourself. I'll be off soon to Liverpool Reference Library seaching till I'm dizzy. Good Luck

Paul

have you looked on rootsweb to see if there is anyhting on there?

I found two trees each of which had the whole of my paternal family going back to the nid-1500s .... I'd only got them back to 1720.


www.rootsweb.com




sylvia

I have had a look on rootsweb but unfortunately it holds nothing of use to this line of enquiry

I would want to see a copy of the original marriage entry of John to Ann Eden in the hope that the witness names might help, or there might be some other snippet of information in the register.

Did he name any children Thomas?

Gwyn

His 5th Son was a Thomas after 2 had been named James (1 died young).

As for witnesses;

John Tennet & Charles Thompson......whoever they may be

Paul

There are old naming patterns - I wonder whether he followed one of those.

They went something like:

First son - named after wife's father
First daughter - after husband's mother,
Second son - after husband's father


etc.

I'm not sure from memory how they worked but if he had a son called James who died young, then named another son James it is likely that either his or his wife's father was a James. It could be worth tracking down old naming patterns and studying the names of his children just to see if there is a pattern.

Check his children's childrens' names too. There might be a clue.

Could be a complete longshot but I am so used to clutching at straws that it's something I'd think about.

Jill

I agree with Jill. It seems that John and Ann had six children that I can see. Their names and those of their children could supply the names of the grandparents.
We've all come up against brick walls like this and a little lateral thinking is called for!
Janet

And have you tried a google search?

I have looked up my local lds centre and will make enquiries there. How would I go about tracking down any wills?

Thanks for that Von,
.Is the date shown the date the will was created or the date it was settled?
The only one which is vaguely relevant is John Mawson of Yorkshire - 1818.

Paul

Re marr witnesses. It's not unusual to find (sort of) professional witnesses - check the other marrs of this year and see if either of yours reappears several times.

Just an additional note to let you know that I have received a copy of John's death certificate with the following details;

Date of death: Twelfth of March 1851 - Eppleby
Sex: Male
Age: 69 years
Occupation: Labourer
Cause of death@ dropsy of the chest - certified
Signature, description and residence of informant: The mark of x Robert Mauston - present at death - Eppleby.

Unfortuntley I can't find any useful info

I ordered Roberts marriage certificate (Johns oldest Son).
John is listed as a husbandman but not listed as a witness.

Paul

Have you also seen this baptism entry? I know it's not Yorkshire but there's nothing to say his family didn't move after he was born.

JOHN MAWSON Pedigree
Male
Christening: 10 DEC 1780 Kendal, Westmorland, England

Parents:
Father: JAMES MAWSON
Mother: ANNE

Given that Kendal in Cumbria is adjacent to Yorkshire, it's worth making a note of, I think.

Regards - Athena

My husband's ancestors seem to move between Westmorland and Yorkshire at will!


I'm always getting confused as to which one is where at which time


sylvia