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I was given this information from the 1930 U.S.census

Wilfed R. Lydeard Maud Lydeard Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA abt 1894 England Head

Maud Lydeard Wilfred R. Lydeard Wilfred R Lydeard Los Angeles,Los angeles CA abt 1889 Wife

Roland Lydeard Wilfred R Lydeard Maud Lydeard Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA abt 1914 Son

Also
Wilfred Lydeard 13 Sep 1893 Jan 1973 Stanton, Orange, California

How do I find more information about this family?

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Wilfred Raymond Lydeard
City: Portland
County: Multnomah
State: Oregon
Birthplace: Gloucestershire;England
Birth Date: 30 Sep 1893
Race: Caucasian (White)
Roll: 1852139
DraftBoard: 2
Citizen or Subject of Canada
Carpenter
Single
Claim exemption from draft: religious objections
Tall, medium build, grey eyes, dark brown hair

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: Wilfred R Lydeard
Arrival Date: Apr 1916
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1894
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Port of Arrival: Niagara Falls, New York, USA
Carpenter
Living in Canada: Uncle Archibald Lydeard, Niagara Falls?, Ontario
Final Destination: Niagara Falls, New York
5'9 1/2"? or 5'4 1/2", medium complexion, ? brown hair
Place of Birth: England, Stroud
Seaport of Landing: St. John's (most likely Canada)
Date of Landing: 1914?
Name of Ship: Virginian


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Wilfred Lydeard
Arrival Date: 15 Sep 1929
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Belgenland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 24
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_4581
Page Number: 213
If naturalized, give name and location of court which issued naturalization papers, and date of papers: Oct. 1923, Dist. Crt, Los Angeles
Address in United States: 355 Canon? Crest Ave Los Angeles

Social Security Death Index
Name: Maude Lydeard
SSN: 562-03-0040
Last Residence: 90680 Stanton, Orange, California, United States of America
Born: 30 Aug 1888
Died: Dec 1974
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951 )


California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Maude Lydeard
Social Security #: 562030040
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1888
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 13 Dec 1974
Death Place: Orange

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Wilford Lydeard
[Wilford Lydared]
Home in 1920: Dupont, Pierce, Washington
Age: 26 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 728
Occupation: Looks like house carpenter

So Roland wasn't Wilfred's son. Can't see him in 1920 yet.

Rose

I wonder if this chap would be one of yours? From his attestation papers for soldiers of WW1 in Canada.
William Edgar U(can't make it out) Lidyeard, born 9 Jan.1899, Newcastle on Tyne, England. Next-of-kin mother Bella Lidyeard, 150 2nd. St. East, Medicine Hat, Alberta. Enlisted Medicine Hat, 26 Jan.1916.

Hi Rose: I was going to say that Maud and Roland could have been living somewhere else, while Wilfred worked. However, I took a second look at the 1930 census and see that Wilfred's first marriage was at age 25 and Maud's was at age 23. So, you're correct, as usual. :))

I wonder if Roland's surname was different as there aren't any records for him on Ancestry.

New York Passenger List from 1929 lists Wilfred as Single. (Providing it is the correct Wilfred.)

Maud Lane married a Harris:

Here's Roland.

Social Security Death Index
about Roland W. Harris
Name: Roland W. Harris
SSN: 564-09-0946
Last Residence: 97470 Roseburg, Douglas, Oregon, United States of America
Born: 7 Mar 1914
Died: 11 Aug 1996
State (Year) SSN issued: California

Rose

Still can't find him in 1920 though. Maud is with her sister Florence Lane.

Rose

Wilfred's cousin?

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: Donald Lydeard
Arrival Date: 12 May 1923
Age: 20
Birth Date: abt 1903
Birthplace: Groydow
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Port of Arrival: Niagara Falls, New York, USA
Departure Contact: Father Archibald
Record has photo?: No
Nationality: Canada
Last permanent address: N. Falls, Canada
Travelling to Patricktown New Jersey or New York
Arrived in Montreal in Aug 1910???
Occupation: US Soldier??

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
Name: Donald Lydeard
Birth Year: 1903
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Channel Islands or England or Great Britain or Isle of Man or Northern Ireland or Scotland or Wales
State: California
County or City: Alameda (there is a city and a county of Alameda)
Enlistment Date: 27 Aug 1942
Enlistment State: California
Enlistment City: San Francisco
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Enlisted Man, Regular Army, after 3 months of Discharge
Education: Grammar school
Marital Status: Widower or widow, without dependents
Height: 71
Weight: 160

Wonder if this could be a rellie?

San Francisco, California Directories, 1889-91
Name: Peter J. Lydeard
Location 2: 1735 Broadway
Business Name: Cal. Mill
Occupation: carpenter
Year: 1889
City: San Francisco
State: CA

Oh, sorry, thought his birth year was 1889. Probably not a rellie.

Maude in 1920:

1920 United States Federal Census
about Maude Harris
Name: Maude Harris
Home in 1920: Los Angeles Assembly District 64, Los Angeles, California
Age: 31 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Widow
Race: White
Sex: Female
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1912
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 726
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Maude Harris 31
Florence Laine 28 Sister

Rose

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Roland W Harris
Name: Roland W Harris
Birth Date: 7 Mar 1914
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Lane
Birth County: Los Angeles

Rose

California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Donald Lydeard
Social Security #: 572050546
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1903
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 21 May 1982
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Lee

Thank you for all your replies. I will have to read it all and sort it out.
I apologise for not replying earlier.

I would be very interested in hearing if Donald is someone for whom you've been looking. I live in California and I know exactly where the city of Alameda is.

Social Security Death Index
Name: Donald Lydeard
Last Residence: 94501 Alameda, Alameda, California, United States of America
Born: 1 Jan 1903
Last Benefit: 94501 Alameda, Alameda, California, United States of America
Died: May 1982
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951 )

Alameda is a small town. She must be connected to Donald.
Social Security Death Index
Name: Edith M. Lydeard
SSN: 559-34-6282
Last Residence: 94501 Alameda, Alameda, California, United States of America
Born: 15 Oct 1894
Last Benefit: 94501 Alameda, Alameda, California, United States of America
Died: Dec 1990
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)


California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Edith Mae Lydeard
[Edith Mae Richardson]
Social Security #: 559346282
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 15 Oct 1895
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 20 Dec 1990
Death Place: Alameda
FATHER'S SURNAME: Richardson

In case these are yours:
Name Birth Date Gender Mother's Maiden Name Birth County
George T Lydeard 24 Aug 1913 Male Thorgold San Francisco
Mary J Lydeard 21 Jan 1922 Female Thorrold San Francisco
Robert W Lydeard 29 Mar 1917 Male Thorrold San Francisco


California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: George Thorrold Lydeard
Social Security #: 545207473
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 24 Aug 1913
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 27 Apr 1981
Death Place: San Francisco
Mother's Maiden Name: Thorrold

California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Eliza Lydeard
[Eliza Thorrold]
Social Security #: 556093894
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 10 Nov 1886
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 7 Jun 1959
Death Place: San Francisco
FATHER'S SURNAME: Thorrold


California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Eliza G Lydeard
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 28 Mar 1881
Birthplace: England
Death Date: 14 Nov 1962
Death Place: Monterey
Mother's Maiden Name: Gale

California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Lucille H Lydeard
Social Security #: 558051202
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 9 Apr 1900
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 25 Mar 1966
Death Place: San Francisco
Mother's Maiden Name: Long