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29 Aug 2008 08:58 |
You might as well have the whole list of results for that surname in theis church (NBI) in case they fit anywhere
1 May 1861 Phoebe CLEMENTS 32 Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert 19 May 1861 George CLEMENTS 13w Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert 7 May 1863 Ada Maude CLEMENTS inf Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert 2 Jun 1869 Samuel CLEMENTS 81 Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert 10 Jan 1881 Hannah CLEMENTS 82 Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert 7 Jul 1887 Priscilla CLEMENTS 66 Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert 2 Jun 1896 Rebecca CLEMENTS 47 Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert 23 Aug 1900 Edward Charles CLEMENTS 14d Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert
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29 Aug 2008 08:57 |
burial date
1 May 1861 Phoebe CLEMENTS 32 Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert
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SylviaInCanada
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28 Aug 2008 22:36 |
Emma on ealrier censuses
1871 Census
Name: Emma Clements Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Gender: Female Where born: Mendlesham, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Mendlesham Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich County/Island: Suffolk Country: England
Registration district: Hartismere Sub registration district: Mendlesham ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 81 Household Members: Name Age Emma Clements 14 Housemaid Elizabeth Palmer 10 months Emily Palmer 21 Henry Palmer 27 Grocer & Draper Address:- Front Street
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can't find her on the 1861 census
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28 Aug 2008 22:31 |
Very true thankyou Sylvia I've learned a whole lot more tonight. I may have some Clements relatives !
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SylviaInCanada
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28 Aug 2008 22:30 |
Here's the 1881 Census ofr Frederick and Emma
Name: Frederick Clements Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Stonham A, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Stonham Aspall County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: East End Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Ag Lab Registration district: Bosmere Sub registration district: Coddenham ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Annie Clements 2 Charles Clements 1 Emma Clements 24 b.ca 1857, Mendlesham, Suffolk Frederick Clements 22
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28 Aug 2008 22:29 |
That's what it says!!
Seh could be a cousin, close or distant.
Small village and all that!!
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28 Aug 2008 22:27 |
I dont get it Sylvia , that Frederick clements could well be child of emma and george that would make him 18 i think but marry emma clements?
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28 Aug 2008 22:09 |
so Emma harvey married George Clements in 1866
AND Emma Clements married George Clements in 1876????
Marriages Jun 1866 (>99%) Clements George Bosmere 4a 841 Harvey Emma Bosmere 4a 841
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Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)
CLEMENTS Emma Hartismere 4a 1128 CLEMENTS Frederick Hartismere 4a 1128 CLEMENTS George Hartismere 4a 1128 Fellingham Anna Myriah Hartismere 4a 1128
OK so discount this last one
George married Anna M, and Frederick married Emma, and all were in their 20s!!
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28 Aug 2008 22:01 |
1841 Census
Name: George Clements Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Gender: Male Where born: Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Redgrave Hundred: Hartismere County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Hartismere Sub registration district: Botesdale Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Clements 35 George Clements 7 John Clements 30
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28 Aug 2008 22:00 |
Had a look on freebmd and couldnt find Phoebe's death and i agree with syliva u would need to buy the birth cert to confirm information
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SylviaInCanada
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28 Aug 2008 21:59 |
well, I found a marriage for George and Phoebe ..... see above.
Here is frederick's birth registration ..... if you buy that, that will tell you who his parents were
Births Jun 1858 (>99%) Clements Frederick Bosmere 4a 509
To me it is fairly obvious that George married Phoebe in 1846. They then had several children, and Phoebe must have then died.
George then married Emma, and started a second family after 1876.
To prove this, you will need to get at least one birth certificate from each of the "two" families.
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28 Aug 2008 21:55 |
Im confused im pretty sure marriage is bosmere (correct for stonham) 1866 emma harvey and george clements. but in 1871 census there is children age 18,13,12,4,2. Even more weird is that i believe the same emma harvey had 2 illegitimate children samuel harvey and sarah harvey in mickfield, suffolk 1848 and 1852. Incidentally Emma Harvey is my 3x gr8 grandmother !
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28 Aug 2008 21:52 |
No problem glad to help.
If George married twice... there could be cos Phoebe died and he married to Emma after???
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28 Aug 2008 21:50 |
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Marriages Jun 1846 (>99%) Bailey William Newmarket 14 169 >>>>>Bell Phoebe Newmarket 14 169 BISHOP Hockley Newmarket 14 169 Claydon Eliza Newmarket 14 169 >>>>>Clements George Newmarket 14 169 Cross Ann Newmarket 14 169 Fuller Charles Newmarket 14 169 Palmby Susan Newmarket 14 169
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Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%) CLEMENTS Emma Hartismere 4a 1128 CLEMENTS Frederick Hartismere 4a 1128 CLEMENTS George Hartismere 4a 1128 Fellingham Anna Myriah Hartismere 4a 1128
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28 Aug 2008 21:46 |
???? 1851 Census
Name: George Clements Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Phoebe Gender: Male Where born: Stonham Aspal, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Stonham Aspall County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Bosmere Sub registration district: Coddenham ED, institution, or vessel: 8a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 29 Household Members: Name Age George Clements 22 Phoebe Clements 21
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28 Aug 2008 21:45 |
1871
Name: George Clemence [George Clements] Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Stonham Aspall, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Stonham Aspall Ecclesiastical parish: Bosmere Town: Stonham Aspall County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Bosmere Sub registration district: Coddenham ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Charles Clemence 18 Emma Clemence 42 Emma Clemence 12 Fredric Clemence 13 George Clemence 42 John Clemence 4 Walter Clemence 2
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28 Aug 2008 21:45 |
thank you all very very much it is a great help for me.
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28 Aug 2008 21:45 |
1861 Poss
Name: George Clemence Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Phoebe Gender: Male Where born: Stonham Aspall, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Stonham Aspall Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Bosmere Sub registration district: Coddenham ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 56 Household Members: Name Age Charles Clemence 8 Emma Clemence 1 Frederick Clemence 3 George Clemence 33 George Clemence 2 Mo Jane E Clemence 6 Phoebe Clemence 32 Beddingham, Norfolk
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28 Aug 2008 21:44 |
1891 Census
Name: George Clements Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Stonham Aspall, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Stonham Aspall Ecclesiastical parish: Stonham Aspall County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Bosmere Sub registration district: Coddenham ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Emma Clements 64 George Clements 64 Harry Clements 18 Son Walter Clements 24 Son
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28 Aug 2008 21:44 |
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Name: George Clements Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Stonham Aspall, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Stonham Aspall Ecclesiastical parish: Stonham Aspall County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Bosmere Sub registration district: Coddenham ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Emma Clements 64 George Clements 64 Harry Clements 18 Walter Clements 24
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