Genealogy Chat

Sorry if this is the wrong board.
I Have been trying to find my Great Grandmothers birth details so I can obtain her birth certificate to no avail. I have searched Ancestry, free bmd, Lancashire bmd and igi.
According to the 1881 cencus she was born in Rochdale and my Mother confirms this. Does this mean she may not have been registered or that her details have been missed off? She was born in 1872
Are there anymore free sites I could search.
Thanks for your time.

put her name up and see if we can help and as much as you know

Diane

Your best bet is to look on the FULL birth index on Ancestry.co.uk.

If your not a paid member of that site...theres loads of GR members that are and willing to look for you.....but we need her name.

Maybe her name was mistranscibed but i bet you 50p that a GR member will find her for you....

Last of the big spenders...Gerri x

Born before compulsory to register births so you might not find one

Thanks all
Paid up member on ancestry I can't find her.
Clementina Bamford born Rochdale 1872 although late 1871 is a possibility
I realise it wasn't compulsory, still hopeful.
Thanks for your offers of help.
Diane

Edward and Elizabeth married 1874 perhaps Clemantina was from a previous marriage ?

Name: Elizabeth Ann Cryer
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Rochdale
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 80 (click to see

Thanks Lindsey
I also wondered that.
I have also searched using Clementina without the surname but the ones that came up in the 1881 cencus weren't her.
Maybe i should have mentioned that she is on that cencus named Bamford.
The main reason I wanted the birth cert is to confirm her mothers maiden name
I had also come up with the name Cryer.
I'm just so new to this that I have no confidence in some of the info I discover.
Thanks again.
Diane.

£7 is a lot when you're not sure, at the moment Ancestry is going slow but if have any ideas I'll report back !

Have you seen this one, surname is wrong but Area and year is correct? but then if they never married till 1874, its a possibility?

Births Dec 1872 (>99%)
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Wood Clementina Rochdale 8e 27

Diane

I thought maybe she was born under her mothers maiden name, I have found a few possibles. Ifyou have her parents names , I will check what I have found before posting.


Cheers

Mmm Clementina wood, interesting. Cant find her on the1881 Cencus nor in the free bmd deaths. Will spend more time on that one tomorrow.
Her parents were Edward and Elizabeth Bamford.both born 1848. Maiden name possibly Cryer.
Diane

Theres a marriage for Elizabeth cryer either Wood or holt ? I'll nip back and find it

Diane

found this

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)
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BAMFORD Edward Rochdale 8e 80
Cryer Elizabeth Ann Rochdale 8e 80
Travis Lazarus Rochdale 8e 80
Whittles Alice Rochdale 8e 80


Cheers

Thanks All

I have found a Clementina Holt born 1872 in Rochdale.
I will check these out tomorrow and see if I can find her.
I must go to bed now got to be up for work and school.
Cheerio and thanks again.
Diane

I don't see births for Ada and Albert and I don't see any of them in 1891.

Rose

The only Clementina unaccounted for is this one:

Births Dec 1872
Wood Clementina Rochdale 8e 27

Odd thing about this is IGI lists her parents as Edward and Elizabeth:

Clementina Wood
Christening: 22 DEC 1872 St Chad'S, Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Parents:
Father: Edward Wood
Mother: Elizabeth

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C004921

If you use the same batch number these two had an Ada Wood too.

Are the Bamfords/Woods the same family?

Rose

Well, Edward Wood is a mechanic in 1871, same as Edward Bamford in 1881.

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Wood
Name: Elizabeth Wood
[Elizabeth Chadwick]
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Castleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Rochdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Castleton Further
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
James Chadwick 38
Mary Chadwick 39
Robert Chadwick 7
Mary Ann Hayes 1
Sarah Hayes 35
Annie Heape 17
James Thomas Heape 4
Edward Wood 27
Elizabeth Wood 23

Rose

Marriages Dec 1868

Heap Elizabeth Rochdale 8e 35
Wood Edward Rochdale 8e 35

Rose

As far as my Mum knows, there were no Woods in the family.
If I applied for her younger brothers birth cert would it show any previous marriage for the Mother Elizabeth as well as her maiden name?
I cant find her Husband Joseph Whitehead on the 1891 cencus either although his parents are on it.
I suppose the Bamfords could have moved away But Clementina married in 1891 at st chads Rochdale
Thanks for you're help P. Rose

Diane

A birth certificate should show a mother's previous married names as 'late' and her maiden name as 'formerly'.

However the maiden surname in registration is not the surname at birth but is the surname used at the mother's first marriage....So could be a surname she used after taking a step father's name.

The information given for a birth is given by an informant, so only as good as they knew....Or if it was the mother, what she wanted them to know!

Chris