Genealogy Chat

I am a new member of GR and am learning my way around the site.

1. I need help on finding information on my grandfather of whom I have very limited knowledge. I get no matches when using approximate dates and places so need direction please. He would have been born approx 1890's in possibly either northern England or Wales. I have a photo of him taken in Canada about 1922, and my mother was born in Toronto in 1925. I believe the family went back to Bournemouth area about 1928 and he died sometime mid 1930's. Not alot to go on.

2. I am on an annual subscription to GR and can't access any records without buying credits. Is there a subscription that includes access to records? I am in Australia.

3. I have entered definite names, years, etc of births etc of family members and come up with no information. Why would this be when I have proof of the facts but can't get anything on GR?

As you can see I am quite a novice but want to learn more and be able to use the site successfully. I find it very interesting.

I would be interested in any helpful advice please.

Carole Mac

Hi Carole,

Welcome to the boards.

Post whatever info you have - possibly backed up by certificates - and the members might be able to help.

Good luck,

M

Hi Carole,

Your subscription to the site only allows you to contact other members on here, not access to any records.

If you are entering Names and year of birth in the search trees option it will only come up with a match if someone else has that person in their tree.

Hope I'm making sense

Linda

Thanks for the quick replies Glitter Baby and Linda.
I don't have any certificates, that is my problem. It is all just from putting a few photos and memories together.

Thanks also re the subscription info.

Regards, Carole

http://www.freebmd.org.uk

This is a free site for Birth, Marriages and Deaths but only goes up to about 1920's. Work is done by volunteers.

After that date you need access to Ancestry or Findmypast - both are pay to view sites. Usually members with subscriptions to either site will help with lookups.

Too many James Hassall born between 1891 and 1901 to make an educated guess as to which one he could be.

If you could find more info than it might be worth getting a free 14 day trial on Ancestry.

Maureen

Here we have people who will look up just about everything, and have subscription to other sites so you dont need to spend out. If you put your relative details on the trying to find board, you will get help.

Once you put a question, hang around for a few minutes for people to ask leading questions. If you cant find the replies go to My Threads and that records all your replies.
Read the help and advice on all the boards and dont be afraid to join in.

Carole,

Please add names an dates for what you have. He might be found on the passenger lists on Ancestry.

Rose

Thank you again everyone. I have used the 'trying to find' but have had no replies.
My grandmother was Florence Ellen Day born in Lytham 1896. Don't know if they were married in UK or Canada or at all??? No confirmation anywhere either way. I have my mothers christening cert.
Do death certs give birth details or any parents names as well? I have someone looking for James' death information in Bournemouth, if it is there.

I will keep on trying.
Thanks.
Carole

Hi Carole

UK death certificates do not give parents names.

On a UK death certificate, you will find

Name of person (as known to informant)
Age of person (as known to informant)
Address where dead person lived
Marital status (may get widow/er of .., wife/husband of ....; as known to informant)
Where person died
Cause of death
Whether inquest was held
Name of coroner if inquest held
Name of Informant
Possible relationship of informant
Address of informant


As you can see ............ there are several places where the information may not be completely correct, as they depend on what the informant knew!



sylvia

This John Hassall married in Toronto but to Elizabeth White:

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
about John Hassall
Name: John Hassall
Birth Place: England
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Father Name: Henry Hassall
Mother Name: Clara Bennett
Spouse Name: Elizabeth White
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Spouse Birth Place: Scotland
Spouse Father Name: Thomas White
Spouse Mother Name: Susanna McLenachan
Marriage Date: 8 Apr 1922
Marriage Place: York
Marriage County: York
Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_598

Rose

Thank you Rose, could be a brother or relative? Gives me another name to search.

Carole

Thank you Sylvia. Nice to know people out there are helping me.

Carole

I assume that yoou have the reference for Florence's birth

Florence Ellen Day
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Fylde
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 693

if you don't have her birth certificate you can buy it for £7 from the GRO, this will give you both parents names

I can't see her on the 1901 census. Do you have this?

1901 just in case it comes in handy later on

Name: Florrie Day
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Percy
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Lytham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Lytham
Ecclesiastical parish: Lytham St Cuthbert
Town: Lytham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:15 Henry St

Registration district: Fylde
Sub registration district: Lytham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 96
Household Members: Name Age
Edith Day 3
Florrie Day 5
Margaret Day 26 Preston
Percy Day 26 Lytham
Thomas Miller 78 Lytham, listed as Uncle
Thomas W Miller 27 Lytham, listed as cousin

Percy is Head of household and is shown as greengrocer

Hi
This could be Percy in 1881, it doesnt give much away as he is the stepson.
There is a marriage in Jun qtr 1876 of Emily Day to Roger Allanson, there is a birth in 1874 of Percival Benson Day, which is a couple of years out on his age but is in the right are

Percival Day
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Step Son
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Lytham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Lytham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 55 Clifton Street
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Fylde
Sub registration district: Lytham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Allanson
Eliza Allanson 1
Emily Allanson 28
Margaret Allanson 3
Mary Elizabeth Allanson 4
William Rodger Allanson 24
Percival Day 6

I cannot see him in 1891, but will keep looking

Ann

Ah
Here he is in 1891, using the name Allanson

Percy Allanson
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Lytham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Lytham
Ecclesiastical parish: St john
Town: Lytham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Fylde
Sub registration district: Lytham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Allanson 10
Eliza Allanson 11
Emily Allanson 37
Percy Allanson 16

Ann

Here is Percy's marriage to Margaret, but you will need to purchase Florence's birth cert to prove definately these are her parents
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
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Day Percival Fylde 8e 1161
Lofthouse Margaret Ellen Fylde 8e 1161

Ann

and this woould be Margaret in 1891, there is the Miller link
Maggie Lofthouse
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Lytham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert
Town: Lytham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Fylde
Sub registration district: Lytham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Maggie Lofthouse 17
John Miller 33
Thomas Miller 68
Thomas Miller 11

Thiis is a possibility for Margaret in 1881, the 2 lodgers, one is a hairdresser and the other is an Inland Revenue Officer, Margaret father is an out of work Collector.


Margaret E. Lofthouse
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 28 Lauderdale St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Preston
Sub registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
A.J. Henegan 24
Ellen Lofthouse 45
Jane Lofthouse 2
Margaret E. Lofthouse 6
William Lofthouse 53
William Lofthouse 10
Frederick Pope 22

Ann

I have just come on line again (morning in Australia). Thank you again to everyone especially Whisky Soda. Yes my grandmothers parents names were Percival and Margaret and it is wonderful to have the records showing all the dates and other names. I will build on that. Interesting that she was registered as Florrie! No wonder I couldn't find anything when I put her in as Florence! Now I need to keep working on my ever elusive grandfather!

Carole