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portland rose,
Thankyou for all the information,it all tallys up to district name and every thing thamkyou so much for all your hard work.

Linda

Births Jun 1853
Rowe Mary Sutton Annarilla Plymouth 5b 257

Marriages Mar 1875
Cann William Plymouth 5b 504
ROWE Mary Zillah A Plymouth 5b 504

I looked at the image for the birth and the middle name has been transcribed as Sutton but it could be Zillah.

Rose

1861 England Census
about Annabella Rowe
Name: Annabella Rowe
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth

Civil Parish: Charles
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Plymouth
Sub registration district: Charles the Martyr
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 284
Household Members: Name Age
Adah Rowe 11
Amanda Rowe 12 Mo
Ambrose Rowe 12
Annabella Rowe 8
Elizabeth Rowe 35
Elizabeth Rowe 14
Samuel Rowe 37
Samuel E Rowe 6

Rose

I think Mary and Annie are the same person:

1871 England Census
Name: Mary Rowe
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: [Charles]
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: Plymouth
Sub registration district: Charles
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 255
Household Members: Name Age
Cornelious Rowe 3
Elizabeth Rowe 47
Ernest Rowe 5
Mary Rowe 18
Samuel Rowe 10 months

Rose

anne, i will take a look then i will be going to bed as well thankyou fo r all your help.
linda

portland rose,
thankyou so much for all that information, it seems as if it is her even the district tallys up with birth details. thank you so much
linda

Hi Linda,

Rose is right i saw the Cann marriage, if you go back to the 1881 census and type in Lena Cann they are living at 16 moon St. There are also several Rowes in the same household. BINGO!
Goodnight.......am going to bed before it gets light!
Ann

portland rose,thank you then possilbly her mother never married her father, for what ever reason!!
thankyou linda

This looks to be Lena in 1881:

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William CANN Head M Male 28 Guernsey, Channel Islands Lumper Dock
Annie CANN Wife M Female 27 Plymouth
Lena CANN Dau Female 8 Plymouth Scholar
James CANN Son Male 6 Plymouth Scholar
Ernest CANN Son Male 2 Plymouth
William CANN Son Male 9 m Plymouth
Cornelius ROWE Bro Male 13 Plymouth
Samuel ROWE Bro Male 11 Plymouth
Heber ROWE Nephew Male 9 Plymouth


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Source Information:
Dwelling 16 Moon St
Census Place Plymouth Charles The Martyr, Devon, England
Family History Library Film 1341527
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2192 / 52
Page Number 1

Rose

anne, yes there is an addrress; 8 higher street plymouth.

Her birth is listed. Her mother married William Cann after she was born. I'm guessing Matthews is the name of the father.

Rose

Linda,

Is there an address for Lena on the marriage cert?

Ann

anne, yes that's true there is alot of info to take in and if you do take time to digest it,then it makes more sence to you. i still can't beleive you found him so quick thanks again.linda

hi portland rose,
i don't think i can find any details of lena as there is nothing saying who her father was at all, omly her name on cert. so i don't think i can do anything on that side now. unless i send for her birth cert i think.
linda

Linda,

If you need more help there are plenty of people on this site that are only too willing. If you are quite new to all this it is better now to sit back and digest all you have found tonight, as too much info in one go can be a bit overwhelming.
Good Luck
Ann

thanks anne, it took me a while but thank you so much. i would never of found them without any help again thanks linda

Do you need help with Lena or the 1881 census?

Rose

Sidney, was spelt Sydney on all the census records.

Rose

Linda,

Here they are in 1901. You can use these details to find them in 1881.

1901 England Census
Name: Sydney Austin
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lena
Gender: Male
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Plymouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Plymouth
Sub registration district: Charles
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Anne Austin 6 months
Charley Austin 2
Ernest Austin 4
Lena Austin 29 Plymouth, Devon, England
Lena Austin 3
Sydney Austin 28


Rose

Hi Linda,

The family is on the 1881 census which you can view for free on familysearch.

Samuel & Harriett and 4 sons inc Sidney

Ann