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Is it usual to be called 1 christian name, but appear on the census as another ??

I have found my 2xGT. Grandfather WILLIAM PREST b. 1846, Ripon Wife ESTHER RAPER b. 1846 Carlton in Yorkshire on the 1881 and 1891 census in Durham, with children

Mary Ann Prest b. 27/9/1872

Thomas Prest b. 8/9/1875

Jane Prest b. 16/7/1881

William Prest b. 7/7/1889

I have just received BC for Jane, the trouble is it says her father is Thomas Prest, Mother Esther Raper

I found a marriage in 2nd qtr 1872, its Esther Raper with Thomas Prest.

A second cousin who has a family bible says William Prest was born 5/3/1836, but on census he is same age as wife b. 1846.

Now I dont know who I am looking for either a Thomas or a William.

To confuse it even more there is another William Prest b. 1836 in Yorkshire married to an Esther Allinson, but none of the children they have match mine on the census, I ordered this William's 2 marriage certs before I decided he was not the right one.

Can anyone help with suggestions.

Thanks in advance.
Sandra

My Gt G/Dad was registered as Samuel but was know as William

What i would do it get their marriage cert for his dads name and then go back to the census

Thanks for reply Julie, do you mean apply for MC of Thomas and Esther. xx

Quote "A second cousin who has a family bible says William Prest was born 5/3/1836, but on census he is same age as wife b. 1846."

So does the marriage details and children's dates of birth come from the bible?

Is the bible the original dating from that time?
Unless the bible was actually written at the time of the event then it is open to error.
Sometimes details would be written up from memory many years after and we all know how a memory can play tricks!

Entries in family bibles were also often copied into new bibles to be given to a daughter on marriage and mistranscriptions occur.

Not alot of help but some background info.

Chris

Yes, sorry thats what i meant lol

My Samuel, married as a William

Yes Chris the childrens birth and the parents are all in the bible, I have only sent for 1 BC up to now, Jane's and that is correct date, but says father Thomas Prest.

Marriage I found on BDM, and Esthers christening on IGI is right.

Second cousin said there is something written under the 1836 birth for William.

He is known as William on 1881, 1891 and 1901, I haven't managed to tie him down on earlier census, what is consistent is he is born in Ripon Yorkshire.

On his son Thomas's MC in 1900 he is called William.

I just cant fathom it out.

Regards
Sandra x

As if this tracking them down wasnt difficult enough Julie, without them swapping names LOL

I will check with second cousin Chris and try and find out if its the original bible, but I think so, she is 80 years old but as bright as a button, thanks for help.

Regards
Sandra x

I have a gt gt uncle Reubin Thomas, also called Thomas Rubin or just Thomas or just Ruebin (spelt different ways). He had a brother Charles whose 2nd name was, I think Henry. His names were also interchangeable. Most frustrating.
Beware of ages on census, some people lied. My step-gtgtgrandfather was younger than my gtgt grandmother when they married but on the 1851 census taken 15 yrs later he is older. I know he was younger as the marriage in the parish reg says he was a minor, with the consent of his mother and I have found what I believe to be his bapt which agrees with the 'minor'.
Also, if it is a transcript of a census, some ages are difficult to decipher, so could be mistranscribed.
Huia.

Do you know when he died?.
I had the same problem locating a relative. She was Ann at her marriage. Annie on the census.

Only when I was contacted by a direct relative I found her real name was Phoebe Ann. She had her birth and death certs.

1901 census.
William Prest 1841 Ripon. occ general lab.
Ester wife 1842 Carlton
William son 1889 Consett Durham
various lodgers with them

address 22 Henzell St Stockton

Thats them Margret, I have them on 1881 1891 1901, BUT dont know which name to look under for earlier census, I would like to pin it down if I can before I order more certs, because as I said I got 2 marriage certs of the wrong William.

Its funny he seems to call himself Thomas on offical BC of daughter, but William on census.

I think I need to get a BC for 1 of the other children to see what it says, what do you think ??.

Thanks
Sandra xx

Bliddy nightmare Huia, arn't they, but I suppose they never thought that about 100 years later people would be looking for them.

Regards
Sandra xx

No I dont know when he died Margaret, he is still alive on 1901 census.

Could this be his death, or maybe not just realised he was in Durham.

Deaths Sep 1902 (>99%)

Prest William 60 Ripon 9a 53

Christine

Births Mar 1846
Prest William Rippon 23 571

Thanks Christine and Ozbird, the date I have been given for his birth is 5th march, so that sounds like it Ozbird, I still cant figure out why if he was born William why he would say Thomas on daughters BC, I think I will now look for a marriage of a William Prest to an Esther, because the 1 I found was a Thomas and Esther, maybe I have the wrong couple.

Regards
Sandra xx

Prest family in Ripon Parish records
Marriage 19 Oct 1835 William Prest & Jane Thompson
Bp 2 May 1836 John Wm son of Wm & Jane Prest Ostler
Bp 8 Jul 1837 Ann da of Wm & Jane Prest Labr Ripon
Bp 15 Apr 1839 Geo son of Wm & Jane Prest labr Ripon
Bp 24 Oct 1840 Jas son of Wm & Jane labr Ripon
Bp 15 Oct 1842 Mary da of Wm & Jane labr Ripon
Bp 28 Sep 1844 Thos son of Wm & Jane labr Ripon
Bp 8 Mar 1846 Wm son of Wm & Jane labr Ripon
Bp 7 May 1848 Henry son of Wm & Jane labr Ripon
baptisms end at this date for Prests

Regards Margaret I

Thats great info Margaret, very much appreciated.

Regards
Sandra