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brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Mar 2008 22:47

Can anyone more experienced help please? I have 2 marriages I cannot find.
First is Thomas Myatt and Mary Ann Clark. Both were born about 1835, in Warwickshire. There 1st child was born 1855, so marriage must have been 1850-55 I suppose.

The second is John Hanks and Florence Kibbler. They were born around 1865. John was born in Oxfordshire, Florence either Bristol or Gloucestershire.
Any help much appreciated! Thanks.
Jan

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Mar 2008 22:54

1891 is this John Hanks

Name: Florence Hanks
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Shire Hampton, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
Town: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 60
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Dan E Hanks 3
Florence Hanks 24
John Hanks 26 Islip, Oxfordshire
John M Hanks 1



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2008 22:58

Where did you get the info about Florence's surname? There isn't a match on 1871 census............or 1881, which is free to all.

Reg

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Mar 2008 22:59

Hi GB! Yes, this is them! Thanks. I just wanted to find the marriage record to confirm Florence's maiden name - I assume Kibbler isn't a very common name so thought it would be easy. Wrong!
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Mar 2008 23:00

Reggie - it was from other Genes people. I do trust them, but I would like to be sure and also trace Florence's line.
Jan

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2008 23:02

Have you looked for Florence before her marriage?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2008 23:03

Sorry.......but never trust anyone's info if you haven't verfied it yourself...........

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Mar 2008 23:04

There is this birth

Name: Florence Kibbler
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Clifton
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 153

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Mar 2008 23:08

Reggie - I do take your point.. This has come from 2 people, but I do still need to be sure.
GB, thanks for finding this birth.. The marriage is still a mystery tho.
Hanks is not a common name. I am completley sure about John Hanks and Florence. Maybe her surname is wrong.
Jan

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2008 23:09

1901.......Florence's age ties in with the birth posted by Glitter

Name: Florence Hanks
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Kings Norton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
Town: Stirchley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England


Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 109
Household Members: Name Age
Asbery W Hanks 6
Ban E Hanks 13
Beatrice E Hanks 2
Florence Hanks 32
Harry Hanks 5
John Hanks 36
Lizzie L Hanks 10
Mathew J Hanks 11
Sarah F B Hanks 8

Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2008 23:11

Ahhhhhh..1881

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Charles F. TREPPLINI Head M Male 63 Nat Brit Sub, Prussia Gent Farming 160 Acres Employs 10 Men & 3 Boys
Elise TREPPLINI Wife M Female 48 Great Barr, Stafford, England Gents Wife
Margaret LINDNER Visitor U Female 33 Birmingham, Warwick, England Independent
Mabel BOWEN Visitor U Female 19 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Independent
Emma BURRIDGE Serv W Female 40 Uddington, Worcester, England Housekeeper Dom Serv
Emily SOFTLEY Serv U Female 17 West Rudham, Norfolk, England Housekeeper Maid Dom Serv
Ellen MURDOCH Serv U Female 22 Tyril, Aberdeen, Scotland Ladys Maid Dom Serv
Florence KIBLER Serv U Female 13 Bristol, Gloucester, England Scullery Maid Dom Serv
Joseph WALLIN Serv U Male 25 Leek Wootton, Warwick, England Farm Servant (Indoor)

Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2008 23:12

1871

Name: Florence Kibler
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Kings Weston, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Princethorpe
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Rugby
Sub-registration district: Dunchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Kibler 1
Daniel Kibler 22
Florence Kibler 2
Sarah Kibler 37


Reg

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Mar 2008 23:13

Reggie - thanks. This is definitely them. I didn't have Bristol as being in Gloucestershire - is it?? Maybe it was back then. It looks like Glitter has found Florence's birth. Thanks to you both.
It's possible they never married I suppose, and it doesn't really matter if I know her name. Would have been nice to find tho!
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Mar 2008 23:16

Reggie - we crossed posts I think! Many thanks for this info.
Jan

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Mar 2008 23:21

Births Mar 1888 (>99%)

HANKS Dan Edmund
Aston 6d 417

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Mar 2008 23:22

Glitter - I do know about Dan, didn't know he was Dan Edmund tho. Thanks.
Jan

Penny Eves

Penny Eves Report 28 Mar 2008 23:49

Checking the GRO indexes for 1885/86/87 (based on age of eldest child on 1891 census), there were six instances of a marriage for a John HANKS.

Cross-checking these with "Florence KIBBLER" re. dates, RDs etc., here is their marriage:

1887 Q2 - John HANKS / Florence KIBBLER - Warwick - 6d 790

(The marriage is not on FreeBMD as that particular quarter has only been 50% transcribed.)

Penny

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 29 Mar 2008 08:02

Penny, thank you so much! I would never have found this. It must be correct - John Hanks is not a common name, and with the info I have it does check out. Brilliant! And thanks too to everyone for their input.. Where would we be without such support from the GR community?
Jan

I know it's a cheek, but is there any chance you could look at the other bit of my original post please? This is to find marriage of
Thomas Myatt and Mary Ann Clark. (I'm sorry to say that I went mad and originally put Hanks instead of Myatt - oops!). They were born around 1835 and their 1st child was born in 1855, so quite a narrow window.
Thanks!
Jan

Ivy

Ivy Report 29 Mar 2008 09:30

Would this be the family in 1861?

Name: Thomas Myatt
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Chorlton Upon Medlock
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock
ED, institution, or vessel: 8

Household schedule number: 145
Household Members:
Name Age

Thomas Myatt 26 b B'ham, Staffs Fitter
Mary A Myatt 26 b B'ham, Wwk

Elizabeth Myatt 6 y b Staffs
Mary J Myatt 2 y b Crewe, Ches
John T Myatt 5 months b M'chester

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 29 Mar 2008 09:35

Thanks Ivy. This is definitely them - Thomas worked on the railways, so I suppose that's why they moved around so much! I've got a birth certificate for one of his children, so I know Mary Ann's maiden name was Clark. Just can't find their marriage.
Jan