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Hi,

I'm looking for my father's side of the family. Other than my dad and his brother, there are no more male Turner's left in my family to carry the name on so I want to do a family tree before it gets forgotten!

My grandad was named Albert Turner. He was born 31/03/1924. I have no idea where he was born. My dad has no idea what his grandparents were called and therefore no idea when they may have been born or where they may have lived.

I have specified Staffordshire as this is where I live and most of the family lived when they were alive but this is not necessarily where they were born!

Please help me make the next step and find my father's side to the family. How can I find out who my grandfathers parents were and when they were born?

I have done a search on 'search trees' for Turner's in Staffordshire but it has come up with so many results it was too overwhelming!

Please help! I know the Turner family is massive and goes back such a long way.

Many thanks,

Nicola Turner

What was your dad's mothers name and maiden name?

Thanks for you reply.

My nana was called Ethel and her maiden name was Camm.

I have no idea when her date of birth was either. Sorry.

Nicola

My nanas date of birth was 11th October 1921 - my mum seems to recall.

Do you know the names of any of your Grandad's siblings, this might help to narrow the area down.

Searched for birth, 1921 anywhere and came up with nothing, so I extended the search to 1921 +/- 1yr and found these two. The first is Lancashire but the second is Staffordshire so could well be your nana's birth unless your mum is certain of the date of birth!

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Camm Ethel Waddington Burnley 8e 315

Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
Camm Ethel (Forrest) Wolstanton 6b 223

If this is her, then her mothers maiden name was Forrest!

These would be siblings of the Ethel Camm above:-

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
Camm Solomon Forrest Wolstanton 6b 182
Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
CAMM Dennis Forrest Wolstanton 6b 184
Births Mar 1915 (99%)
Camm Norah Forrest Wolstanton 6b 184
Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Camm Janet Forrest Wolstanton 6b 187

Any of the names ring a bell?

My dad recalls an Aunt Eliza, however he knows that his dad was one of many.

My nanas date of birth was 11th Oct but now my mum isn't sure if it was 1920 0r 1921!

Now you can see what difficulty I've been having!

Nicola x

There are 2 Albert Turners registered Jun Qtr (which would be the one for 31st March birth)1924 in Staffordshire.


Turner Albert Lawrence Barton I 8c 942
Turner Albert Griffin Walsall 6b 1252
<<<Turner Albert Smith Stoke T 6b 173
Turner Albert D Booth Worksop 7b 87
Turner Albert E Criddle Aston 6d 924
Turner Albert H Scurr W.Ham 4a 362
<<<Turner Albert J Taylor Stoke T 6b 121

Christine

Nope. My nana had a brother called Ron. He is still alive but very old and doesn't remember anything really. I've not had the opportunity to meet him about this so been unable to ask him anything. I think she had other brothers and sisters too though.

You really need to find the marriage of Albert and Ethel to find out Albert's father's name.

Christine

Where would I find that?

Nicola x

Your Grandad was born 31st March, so his birth would have been registered in the June quarter of 1924. The following are all births for Albert Turner, 1924 anywhere:-

Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
Turner Albert (Lawrence) Barton I 8c 942
Turner Albert (Griffin) Walsall 6b 1252
Turner Albert (Smith) Stoke T 6b 173
Turner Albert D (Booth) Worksop 7b 87
Turner Albert E (Criddle) Aston 6d 924
Turner Albert H (Scurr) W.Ham 4a 362
Turner Albert J (Taylor) Stoke T 6b 121

So any of these could be him!
If you have the name of some of his siblings I could check for their births with the above to try and find a match!

I mentioned above, not sure if yu saw it, my dad recalls an aunt Eliza or Elizabeth. He says his dad was one of many however his aunt Eliza is the only one he remembers.

I'm really impressed to how much you have found though! Thank you

Nicola x

The marriage can be found on Ancestry or Findmypast but they are subscription sites.

Do you have a rough idea of when they married or when their first child was born?

I have to go out now but will check back later to see if anything has been found.

Christine

This would be your Grandad's death record:-

Albert Turner 31 Mar 1924 Feb 1989 64 Stoke On Trent Staffordshire

so Stoke is looking good!

Of the two Albert Turners that were born in Stoke, one has a middle name begging with J. but the death record above does not show this middle name, so could be it is the other one (mothers maiden name Smith)

All speculation for the moment of course, you really need to find something solid.

Hi,

I'v been talking to my mum and she says that my nana was one of 13 children. The list with norah, janet, soloman and dennis on was right however, my dad doesn't recall anyone called Dennis. My mum sems to think that a lot of my nanas siblings died very young.

As for my grandad, that death certificate was exactly right. Does it have his parents names on?

Nicola x

How do I find his father's name and his mother's first name?

This is getting much more interesting now!

And also, how do i find the rest of the names for my nana's siblings and my grandads siblings?

Nic x

You can find siblings on freebmd.org when you have the mothers maiden name, but unfortunately this research is only available after 1911 and up to the date that the records have been transcribed which varies according to the district, but which is usually about 1930. (if I remember correctly)


If the list for Camm was the correct one, then this would be the record for you Nana:-

Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
Camm Ethel Forrest Wolstanton 6b 223

You now need to buy the birth certificate. This will give you her fathers name and her mothers name and maiden name. You can then find a marriage for them, after which you can buy the certificate, which in turn will give you their ages, so you can find their date of birth and also their fathers names and professions which will help you find them in the census records.

Then it gets really interesting!!!

I searched for a marriage for male Camm to female Forrest, in Staffordshire and found this which seems to fit as the name of the husband is the same as that of one of the children (Soloman):-

Marriages Mar 1907 (>99%)
Barlow James Leek 6b 406
BRIDGETT Florence Leek 6b 406
<<<CAMM Solomon Leek 6b 406
<<<FORREST Jane Elizabeth Leek 6b 406
Higginson George Henry Leek 6b 406