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William Waterhouse 1866

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Kathleen

Kathleen Report 2 Feb 2008 11:42

OK ! I'm more confused than ever now !!!

Just tried following William BALL through the census and they did live in tents/caravans all the way through - this ties in with what an elderly relative can remember being told. That William never lived in a house, always a caravan.

Looking at the 1881 census there is a Sophie listed. I can just remember being told about an aunt Sophie, unfortunately the few people left can't remember her.

OH MY - do we have the right family after all, and if so WHY the name change, 'cos my Dad was definitely Waterhouse ? !

jansmith

jansmith Report 2 Feb 2008 16:12

Hi, well Waterhouse would have been his fathers offical name wouldn't it,and census was just what they told the enumarator to write down! I think people will be looking for a lot of answers from the 1911 census! I for one am waiting to see who my husbands greatgrandmother is with, as all children (even in 1904)were surname Martin but she is Kite in 1901.
I think in your family if you think i may have the right ones then it could mean buying certs to see . I suppose if Elizabeth was a widow it should say that on the marriage cert.

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 3 Feb 2008 13:43

Yes I guess you're right - certificates are probably the next stage.

The 1911 is the one that will give me my answers I think as the family were settled by then and Waterhouse was the name - but I'm no good at waiting !!! (ha, ha)

Thanks for all your help and good luck with your search. If I get a break through I'll let you know.

jansmith

jansmith Report 3 Feb 2008 17:09

Thanks it would be good to hear if you get any answers .I will leave this thread bookmarked

jansmith

jansmith Report 4 Feb 2008 00:06

OK so why didn't i see this in 1901
Name: William Waterhouse -image says labourer docks!
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Name: Mary Ann Waterhouse
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Name: Wm Hy Waterhouse
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Have not been able to find a connection with a son Wiilliam in other census years though.

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 4 Feb 2008 12:19

Oh its more and more frustrating doesn't it?!

I did find that myself and like you couldn't find William in the other census years.

I'm still drawn to the Ball connection I have to admit, I wonder if Elizabeth Waterhouse rather than a widow just wasn't married when she had William junior, this would explain her marriage to James Ball and William using the Ball name but going back to his original birth surname on his marriage? Maybe, perhaps. . . . ?

jansmith

jansmith Report 4 Feb 2008 15:31

Well would he have had to show a birth cert when he got married? I like you am still drawn to the "Ball" family.Perhaps the Waterhouse/ James Ball marriage cert might give an answer if you thik it is the one

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 5 Feb 2008 11:55

I suppose its a possiblity, I have found and ordered the marriage certificate for Waterhouse/Ball so we'll see what that turns up.

I think I may have found a birth cert for William too. 1866, 3rd quarter, Sculcoates - not sure but sounds like it might be. I'll keep looking!

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 8 Feb 2008 15:19

JANICE ! I HAVE FOUND WILLIAM ! ! !

I can't believe it I'm so excited I nearly kissed the postman !
I sent for the marriage certificate of Elizabeth and James Ball - turns out you were right, Elizabeth was a widow. Her father's name was Wallis Webster.

Now I know that means nothing to you BUT my uncles name was William Wallace Webster Waterhouse ! (Poor chap, we called him Sonny!)

The birth certificate I sent for has William Waterhouse as the father and Elizabeth formerly WEBSTER as the mother! After 2 years of searching I HAVE HIM ! Now I can start looking for the rest of his family.

Thanks for all your help, you pointed me in the right direction, I am really grateful. YIPEEE !

jansmith

jansmith Report 9 Feb 2008 07:09

What a result ,so pleased for you.If you need any more help just sent a personal message or post on here i can leve this thread in my bookmark. Good luck in your search