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I have very limited information but here it goes... My gran Olive Ethel Pearce born 1916 Ystrad Mynach/Gelligiaer, Monmouthshire, Wales she married Thomas Richard Jones 1913. I would like to trace back my grans family. I believe her mother to be Maria? Please can someone help me? I would be so grateful
sincerely
Natalie

Natalie,

Is this your gran's birth record?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Olive E Pearce
Name: Olive E Pearce
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Davies
District: Newport M
County: Glamorgan, Gwent, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 543 (click to see others on page)

Hi Joan
Thank you so much for replying. Yes I do believe that is it. Without be sounding like a fool, do i have to order a copy of that birth record to take the next step? without anything definite info and i lost information copied from records on an old computer, i have just ended up covering old ground and going around in circles.
sincerely
Natalie

Natalie ordering a cert is the only way to ensure that you follow the correct family.

Thanks Claire
I have many maybes... but that's it!
what information will be on the birth certificate altogether?

You now could look for marriages for a Davies and a Pearce, but with so little to go on, you really do need her birth certificate to get on the right track.

To order, go to the GRO government site, and with the info on here, you can order one for £7 if you quote the volume and page numbers. They come within a week at the moment.

Thank you so much, i will order one asap.
I just looked through some more records and there is a maria davies in the 1901 census living in Newport. could this then be my great grandmother? age seems to fit in.
im sooo sorry to be a pain

Forever Gratefull
Natalie

Natalie I'm in Wales & I wouldn't attempt a guess at a Davies, Williams or Jones!

Potentially other siblings....

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
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Pearce William J Davies Newport M. 11a 703


Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
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PEARCE George Davies Newport M 11a 567


The census is a bit of a guess, given there are a few Davies in Wales and you have no other information to cross-check to confirm or eliminate... freebmd was "too busy" a minute ago, but i'll look for the marriage again...

Hang on!

If you get the marriage cert of your Grandmother and Grandfather you'll get both their fathers... which may be more help in tracing 2 families in the census?

Especially if you aren't sure of her birthdate for the record found...

Needle in haystack or what!!

Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%)
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Davies May Pearce Bedwellty 11a 221
Pearce Henry S Davies Bedwellty 11a 221

Could she have been May?

Perhaps the birth cert is the best choice for now.. lol

Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)

Davies Maria Pontypool 11a 229
PEARCE William John Pontypool 11a 229

There's also 2 Margaret Davies marrying Mr Pearces in Cardiff... and of course probably more going back earlier...

Tis indeed a bit of a haystack!

Natalie... I don't think you mean that Olive was born in 1916, and married in 1913...??

Diane
you are an absolute star! just found out that my gran did have brothers and sisters. I know of iris, john, Alf, Clara and pansy!
Oh my goodness..... the can has been opened
what do i need then for the marriage cert?
Thank you all... i didnt think anyone would be interested ..... many many thanks

Natalie.. think you missed my last post... dates?

My gran olive maiden name pearce born i thought in 1916 but it seems 1915 married my grampy thomas Jones. they lived in cardiff after the war which is the house i remember. Other than that my gran had sibblings. I was told that my gran was brought up in gelligare and or Ystrad Mynach. I belive her mother to be maria? and it seem maiden name davies.
sorry have i confused matters?

Natalie.. ah ok.. no its me reading too quickly! so you think Thomas Jones was born in 1913, in which case they were probably married after 1936, do you know if they married pre or post the war?

If we find the other siblings we might be able to be more sure about the marriage of Maria Davies that I found, depending how SURE you are of her name, depends if you want to fork out the £7 for it or not!?

Finding your gran's marriage is slightly more timeconsuming as the marriages are not yet indexed for that period, and so its a quarter by quarter search... (Dee is offering to do some on this board, but would be better to give her the best chance if you can find out a more approximate date..)

<-- gone looking for siblings whilst you read this!

Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)

Davies Maria Pontypool 11a 229
PEARCE William John Pontypool 11a 229

this could certainly be possible this potentially the marriage of my great grand mother and great grandfather! ********

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
PEARCE Iris M Davies Pontypool 11a 419

(matches the marriage district... go for it!)