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Mary
Thank you some much that's them!!!!

Thomas Gundle born 1826? Herts. married Mary Elizabeth Ford born 1830. on the 11.3.1860.in Shoreditch. 1901 census living in London. Cant find any children to them. Can you help?? Thomas may have had a brother John. Would appreciate your help.

Hi Jennifer
Found this on 1871:

Shown on census as Gundrill

4 Gt James St,Hoxton Old Town,Shoreditch
Thomas Gundrill Head 39 Labourer b Wesson,Herts
Mary E Gundrill Wife 41 Dressmaker b Waddesdon,Bucks
Edway Gundrill Son 16 Apprentice scale maker b Islington

Hope this helps

Mary

Please could check the 1901 census for;

Margaret Ann Liliston, 1886
She was born in Sunderland but may have moved to Gateshead. I don't have a lot of information, I don't know her parents names. I have the birth record, but haven't been able to trace anymore information.

I would be gratefull for any information

Hi Julie

1901
53 Ward Street,South Bishopwearmouth,Durham
George Liliston Head 34 River police constable b Sunderland
Elizabth Ann Liliston Wife 31 b Cardiff,Glamorgan
Magaret Liliston Daur 15 b Sunderland
Ethel May Liliston Daur 13 b Sunderland
Georgina Liliston Daur 10 b Sunderland
Charles Liliston Father Widower 62 Dock Waterman b Ipswich

1891
45 Railway Sreet,South Bishopwearmouth,Durham
Charles Lilyston Head 57 Mariner b Ipswich
Margaret Lilyston Wife 57 b Pensher
Frederick Lilyston Son 19 Labourer b Sunderland
William Lilyston Son 17 b Sunderland
Margaret A Lilyston Gdaur 5 Sunderland


I could not find George/Elizabeth on 1891 probably caught up in birth of youngest child.
Definitely the correct folks despite bizarre spelling and age of Grandad.

Regards
Mary

Hi Mary

Are you able to do marriage lookups for the 60's?
If so please can you look up a marriage for Robert Rowe to Sheila Barnes in Romsey Hants sometime in Oct 1965
Thanx Chris

Hi mary
can you look up records for cork southern ireland 1901 or before
william & margaret o sullivan her maiden name was healy they married in 1880s catholic church in cork
had 7 boys & daughters but i cant find anything of them
william bay have been born in a small place called blackpool in cork s /ireland
regards ade

Hi Sheila

Can you look up scottish records? If so can you look for Duncan Cruickshanks in Inverness in the 1901 census born arouind 1868.

Thanks

Kat

Thanks alot. You have been a great help!

Unfortunatly I have been chasing a phantom for a week. The orginally name I search for (which give me the name of Liliston) was incorrect and the name I should have been checking was Isabel (or Isabella - this was the source of my orginal mistake!!) Miller in Gateshead. However your information was very helpfully in me being able to rule out this line from my tree.

Thanks again.

Hi Chris
The registration reference for the marriage is as follows:

Robert E P Rowe/Sheila E Barnes Dec Qtr 1965
Romsey 6B 1254.

To obtain further details you will need to purchase the certificate.

Mary

Hi Ade
Sorry I do not have access to any Irish records

Mary

Hi Kat
I am Mary not Sheila!!!

but I did the lookup anyway and could not find a Donald Cruikshanks b 1868 in Inverness on 1901 Scotland Census.

Mary

Hi Mary
Thanx for that
Best Regards Chris

HI mary
I don't know if you remember or not but you tried about a week ago (20th Feb)to look up the White family for me,Sissie White c 1833 married to charles Smart c 1892 d 1917 in WW1 they married in Hungerford oct qtr 1914
The only reference you could find was as follows
1901 Census
Street,Odstock,Wiltshire
John White Head 33 Ag lab b Bishopstone,Wilts
Mary E White Wife 28 b Bishopstone,Wilts
Sissie M White Daur 5 b Odstock
Lilith E White Daur 3 b Odstock
Violet L White Daur 5mths b Odstock
I ordered the cert for Violet White as you suggested to find the name of mother I now have it and mum's name was Mary Elizabeth White maiden name Scutt/Scuff? not very clear I'm afraid
Hope this helps
I'm sure you will get somewhere now,as youv'e never failed before
PS Hope dogs fully recovered now
Kindest Regards Chris
PPS Just looked on freebmd marriage and found John White and Mary Elizabeth Scutt Jan qtr Wimborne don't know if it's them or not

Hi Chris
Firstly the DOG,had the stitches out last Saturday,went for a walk and the wound opened up again.So back to VET and restitched,so glad he is insured,will be over £200 by the time it is sorted.
Yes I am sure that the marriage you found is correct as I have found a Mary Elizabeth Scutt in Cranborne b 1872 which fits,still a puzzle over the birthplace of Bishopstone shown on 1901 for John and Mary E.
Wimborne is the reg district for Cranborne,so well done!!

Here is 1881 & 1891 census for the Scutt family

1881
Holwell,Cranborne,Dorset
Eli Scutt Head 38 Ag lab b Unknown There is a note on the census showing Eli as dumb since birth.
Elizabeth Scutt Wife 34 b Cranborne
Thomas John Scutt Son 11 Scholar
Mary Elizabeth Scutt Daur 9 Scholar
William George Scutt Son 7 Scholar
Eli Robert Scutt Son 5
Fanny Louisa Scutt 3 Daur 3
Unamed Scutt Daur 5days
All children born Cranborne,Dorset

1891 Dry Street,Cranborne,Dorset
Eli Scutt Head 51 Ag lab
Elizabeth Scutt Wife 47
Eli Scutt Son 14 Ag lab
Fanny L Scutt Daur 12 Scholar
Emma Scutt Daur 10 Scholar
Olive B Scutt Daur 7 Scholar
Kate Scutt Daur 6 Scholar
Sidney G Scutt Son 3
The census image shows no birthplaces for any of the family and makes no mention of Eli's disability.

Still stuck on John White.

and 1901 Water Street,Cranborne,Dorset
Eli Scutt Head 59 Ag lab b Cranborne shows him as Deaf and Dumb since birth
Elizabeth Scutt Wife 57
Fanny Scutt Daur 22
George Scutt Son 13
Frederick Scutt Son 8
All others born Cranborne

Another twig or two on the tree!!

All the best
Mary

Sorry Mary

I thought i had posted it on Sheilas post, went to look and realised i had posted it in yours! What a wally!

Thanks for looking

Hi Mary
Thanx for that, you are a honey!
Sorry to hear about your'e dog having to be stitched up again,poor thing anyway,like you said it's a good job youv'e got him insured

Have you got the Scutt family in the other censuses please?

As for the whites do you think that they could have been transcribed incorrectly?
Someone has mentioned that they may have been living in Hampshire at some time but this may be wrong
Anyway I am sure that you will do your best to find them
Kindest Regards Chris x

Hi Chris
Here are the Scutt folks back to 1841.

1881 Standridge,Cranborne,Dorset
Eli Scutt Head 38 Ag lab b Unknown Dumb from birth
Elizabeth Scutt Wife 34
Thomas John Scutt Son 11 Scholar
Mary Elizabeth Scutt Daur 9 Scholar
William George Scutt Son 7 Scholar
Eli Robert Scutt Son 5
Fanny Louisa Scutt Daur 3
Unamed Scutt Daur 5days
All Children and Mum b Cranborne

1871 Cranborne,Dorset
Eli Scutt Head 27 Ag lab Deaf and dumb
Elizabeth Scutt Wife 25
John Scutt Son 2
Elizabeth Laws Lodger Widow 69 b Edmondsham,Dorset
John Biney Lodger 53 Ag lab b Cranborne

Eli Scutt/Elizabeth Laws March Qtr 1867 Wimborne 5a 397
Looks as if the Lodger is actually MIL or even Grandmother
I cannot find Elizabeth Laws on 1861 or 1851 prior to marriage to Eli,also cannot find a birth for her.

1861 Water St,Cranborne
Thomas Scutt Head 63 Ag lab b Afpuddle,Dorset
Mary Scutt Wife 63 b Turners Puddle,Dorset
Charles Scutt Son 26 Ag lab b Chawleigh,Dorset
Eli Scutt Son 18 Ag lab b Petherton,Somerset
Both Charles and Eli are shown as deaf and dumb

1851 Bilhows Cross,Cranborne
Thomas Scutt Head 53 Ag lab b Affpuddle
Mary Scutt Wife 53 b Tuners Puddle
Charles Scutt Son 17 Ag lab b Chawleigh D&D
Edwin Scutt Son 14 b Mapperton,Dorset
James Scutt Son 10 b Broomfield,Somerset
Eli Scutt Son 8 b North Petherton,Somerset D&D

1841 Woods Broomfield,Somerset
Thomas Scutt 40 Ag lab
Mary Scutt 40
Thomas Scutt 15
Emily Scutt 12
Robert Scutt 9
Charles Scutt 7
Edwin Scutt 4
James Scutt 1
All shown as born Somerset

All best wishes
Mary

Hi Mary
Thanx for the info on the Scutts I'll let you know if I can find out any more info about the Whites I know you'll do the same if you find anything else on them
Best Regards Chris x

Hi Mary
Hope the dog hasn't got into any more scrapes lately
Iv'e got another one for you if you don't mind
This time it's my brother in laws family
i don't know a lot about them,here is what Iv'e got

William Newton b c1904 maybe Gainsborough Lincs married Gladys King b c1897 Lincs?

They were married c1928 children were Betty,b 1929, Margaret, Charles Henry, Maurice&June

Gladys siblings were Ruth,Alice,&Ted King
I think they all lived in Lincolnshire

Best Regards Chris