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Hi Elizabeth,

The marriage to Elizabeth, was that at St. Nicholas in Whiston, Prescot?

I know you might think it mad, but I found this under the Swift name. William & Elizabeth, right ages, birth places, and both daughters, plus others, but it does fit apart from the surname:

Name: William Swift
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Whiston, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Prescot
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 13 Beaconsfield St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Prescot
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
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Household Members:
Name Age
Clara Swift 1
Elizabeth Swift 31
Elizabeth Swift 3
Faith Swift 8
John Edwd. Swift 5
William Swift 31
William Swift 7

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Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3729; Folio: 64; Page: 39; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341893.


There are 2 sites that I know of that you can lookup addresses and that's www.thegenealogist.com, or www.findmypast.com. I'm a member of the first (until December) but that doesn't cover 1881.

It's unlikely they would still be at the same address 10 years earlier, but may well be worth a try.

Cheers

Phil

Hi Phil

Thankyou for carying on the search. To answer your questions:-
1) The marriage certificate states The parish Church in the parish of Whiston.
2) In answer to the Swift question. This is interesting as this has come up before.

Elizabeths's mother was Faith Stockley and she had a sister called Margaret who married a William Swift. They had a daughter called Elizabeth born about the same time as Elizabeth Waine 1850.

The children on your census don't quite match my William's as my William had Earnest and Charlotte and my John (who is my garnadfather )was John William not John Edward).

I know it is unlikely for them to be at the same address but just thought it mught give a clue.The family search .org gives the 1881 census but I don't know how to search by address.
I have a printed copy of the 1891 one but can't read the address!!

Many thanks again for your help

Elizabeth

Elizabeth,

The address for the 1891 census looks like 11 Kimble St.

If you check this link: http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi?county=lancashire

and search you'll get this info:

HOUGHTON William WAINE Elizabeth Whiston, St.Nicholas Prescot C7/1/19

If you send me a mail to [email protected] I'll send you a readable census that you can open with MS Picture viewer.

Ah yes, just checked the FindMyPast site, and you can't search for an address for the 1881 census. :-(

I found the Swift's by searching for a Cloe with age & father & mother's details, she was the only viable one that came up.

Cheers

Phil

Elizabeth,

Just one more point. The Earnest & John from the 1891 census wouldn't have been born for the 18881 census so they wouldn't have shown up. The dates for Chloe & Elizabeth match with the 1891 census dates for thiose children, along with both parents.

Cheers

Phil

Hi Phil

My family's dates of birth are:-
Elizabeth 1878,Clara 1880,Earnest 1882, Margaret 1885, John 1886, Charlotte 1892.

So the only 2 that should show up on the 1881 census are Elizabeth 1878 and Clara 1880.
I had a chat with my Mum this morning who is John's daughter and she can't remember any other children than the ones I have.

Thanks again for looking

Elizabeth

Hi again
I have just had alook at the Swift family to see if William Swift and Margaret Stockley had a son called William but I can't see that they did unless that information is missing from my research.

It is all a great mystery.

Elizabeth

Phil,

I have sent you a note via your site as I have one of those unwanted certficates.

Regards
Jhn

Cheers John,

Reply on it's way.

Thanks

Phil

Hi Phil,

I believe there are some references in the Universal British Directory to Jonathan Mallet(t), an army surgeon from Lichfield, Staffordshire, who was with the British army in America in about 1760-1784.

If you have time, could you have a look?

Thanks very much,
Mary

Mary,

Sorry, Lichfield doesn't seem to be included, I did search the whole directory just in case, but no luck.

Good luck

Phil

No problem, Phil, thanks very much for trying.

Happy to do any further lookups until the weekend, then I need to spend some time updating the website.

Hi Phil

Wiltshire PRs - any WALLON

South Wales Pigot - any CANTON

Cheers

Michael

Hi Phil.

Can you look up census on the 1861-
or 1871. John Maguire.came from
Enniskillen Ireland.

Married Bridget Brannan year 1859 in
Weardale Durham.

Thankyou.

libra.

Hello Phil
I have tried a few times to get on to your site no luck am afraid.
I'm really hoping and praying that he can help me with this I have been struggling for so many years now. If it wasn't for the fact that I have my father's birth certificates and grandparents marriage certificates I would be absolutely convince that this family never existed.
The family that I am researching Beatty's from Dublin Ireland my grandfather Eugene Lawrence Beatty date of birth I believe 2nd of September 1894 I do have a little information from his war records but nothing about his life before the war or after the war. He enlisted into the Irish guards at Dublin on the 19th of September 1914. He gives is next of kin Father Michael Beatty of 27 Dartmouth road Leeson park Dublin. I do have more information but just do not want to bore you at the moment.
Thank you Lynne

Hi Michael,

Wiltshire Parish Registers:
Isaac Vineing (widower) & Elizabeth Wallon (spinster) married 14th February 1773, St. Martin, Salisbury, Wiltshire

I'll let you know about Canton.

Cheers

Phil

Michael,

Can you give me any further clues about Canton, occupation, or area. The directory is all bmp's so I have to open each one and look at all the names, and there's over 50 files.

Cheers

Phil

The following should be there, but I was really after any others. Just leave it if you cant find any quickly. Thanks.

William CANTON Quay St Haverfordwest Ironmonger (may also listed under Timber Merchant) *

Michael

Libra,

Not having much luck at the moment, do you have an occupation?

In the meantime I thought I'd check out the Maguire's in Enniskillen and came up with a fair few names out of the marriage extracts, any of these yours:

MAGUIRE, Barney md. Margaret MAGUIRE *e
Patrick MAGUIRE, bn. 20 Mar 1869

MAGUIRE, Charles md. Mary CASSIDY *e
Francis MAGUIRE, bn. 20 Oct 1867
Sarah Ellen MAGUIRE, bn. 27 Jul 1869
Charles John MAGUIRE, bn. 17 Jan 1871
James Joseph MAGUIRE, bn. 21 May 1872

MAGUIRE, Charles md. Catherine DUFFY *e
Mary MAGUIRE, bn. 22 Apr 1871

MAGUIRE, Charles md. Anne STEWART *e
John Francis MAGUIRE, bn. 30 Jan 1874

MAGUIRE, Daniel md. Margaret SMITH *e
Patrick MAGUIRE, bn. 25 Dec 1873

MAGUIRE, Denis md. Catherine ONEIL *e
William John MAGUIRE, bn. 9 Dec 1873

MAGUIRE, Edward md. Mary EVENS *e
Edward MAGUIRE, bn. 14 Feb 1874

MAGUIRE, George, s/o John
md. Catherine KELLY, d/o Patrick, on 3 Oct 1854

MAGUIRE, James md. Mary MAGURN *e
Catherine MAGUIRE, bn. 21 Oct 1870

MAGUIRE, James, s/o John
md. Anne JOHNSTON, d/o Mathew, on 25 Dec 1861

MAGUIRE, James, s/o John
md. Eliza PORTEUS, d/o John, on 15 Dec 1852
Margaret MAGUIRE, bn. 5 Aug 1869
John Henry MAGUIRE, bn. 13 Nov 1873

MAGUIRE, John md. Mary TAGE *e
Nancy MAGUIRE, bn. 7 Oct 1864

MAGUIRE, John md. Anne MCBRIDE *e
Mary MAGUIRE, bn. 6 Jun 1867
James MAGUIRE, bn. 23 Jul 1870
Anne MAGUIRE, bn. 23 Jun 1872
John MAGUIRE, bn. 9 Jun 1874

MAGUIRE, John md. Anne ODONNEL *e
James MAGUIRE, bn. 16 Sep 1868

MAGUIRE, John md. Mary CORRIGAN *e
Daniel MAGUIRE, bn. 4 Sep 1869
Margaret MAGUIRE, bn. 4 Sep 1869

MAGUIRE, Owen md. Bridget MAGEE *e
Bridget MAGUIRE, bn. 4 Nov 1870

MAGUIRE, Patt, s/o Owen
md. Anne BEATTY, d/o Rowland, on 22 May 1860

MAGUIRE, Patrick md. Catherine MCKENNA *e
Elizabeth MAGUIRE, bn. 30 Oct 1867
John MAGUIRE, bn. 28 Nov 1870
Edward MAGUIRE, bn. 11 Jun 1873

MAGUIRE, Patrick md. Margaret BANNON *e
John MAGUIRE, bn. 15 May 1867
Michael Joseph MAGUIRE, bn. 1 Oct 1869
Philip MAGUIRE, bn. 8 Mar 1871

MAGUIRE, Patrick md. Mary CORRIGAN *e
Francis MAGUIRE, bn. 24 Dec 1868
James MAGUIRE, bn. 15 Nov 1871
Ellen MAGUIRE, bn. 18 Mar 1874

MAGUIRE, Patrick md. Anne DOORIS *e
Patrick MAGUIRE, bn. 7 Mar 1870

MAGUIRE, Patrick md. Mary KILGARRIFF *e
Rosa Anne MAGUIRE, bn. 27 Nov 1873

MAGUIRE, Patrick md. Sarah MCCUE (MCHUGH) *e
James MAGUIRE, bn. 22 Mar 1874

MAGUIRE, Patrick md. Anne WEIR *e
John MAGUIRE, bn. 29 Jan 1874

MAGUIRE, Robert, s/o William
md. Elizabeth ARTHURS, d/o Christopher, on 23 Nov 1854

MAGUIRE, Thomas md. Catherine BRADY *e
Elizabeth MAGUIRE, bn. 23 Oct 1867
Mary MAGUIRE, bn. 30 Nov 1870
Patrick MAGUIRE, bn. 25 Mar 1874

MAGUIRE, Thomas md. Anne DOGHERTY *e
Anne MAGUIRE, bn. 29 Apr 1868
Margaret MAGUIRE, bn. 23 Aug 1872

MAGUIRE, Thomas md. Anne MAGUIRE *e
John MAGUIRE, bn. 18 Feb 1869
Elizabeth MAGUIRE, bn. 9 Apr 1871
Joseph MAGUIRE, bn. 24 May 1873

MAGUIRE, Thomas md. Mary KEENAN *e
Maryanne MAGUIRE, bn. 24 Jan 1869

MAGUIRE, Thomas md. Sarah BROWNLEE *e
Charles John MAGUIRE, bn. 4 Dec 1873

MAGUIRE, Thomas, s/o John
md. Mary BLAIR, d/o John, on 18 Nov 1862

MAGUIRE, Thomas, s/o Thomas
md. Anne BLEAKLEY, d/o William, on 21 Mar 1854

MAGUIRE, William md. Jane MCCUSKER *e
Philip MAGUIRE, bn. 26 Nov 1867
William MAGUIRE, bn. 6 Sep 1869
Mary Catherine MAGUIRE, bn. 26 May 1874

MAGUIRE, William md. Susan GILGUN *e
Teresa MAGUIRE, bn. 21 Apr 1867
Thomas MAGUIRE, bn. 2 Dec 1870

Michael,

Yep, spotted him in both categories. I found another so far:
John Canton - Ship Builder - Milford Haven.

I'll continue looking later.

Cheers

Phil