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right i get you. Magdalen Brown was her grandma so need to find her daughter.

so i need to find magdalens kids first to get their names

Ann is her grandaughter. Which means either Ann's mother or father decends from her. As Ann does not have the same surname it can be safe to assume on of Magdalen's Daughters married an Anderson. Which means you need to look for an Anderson - Brown marriage,,,,

ok so how are magdeline and ann related? cousins?

i dont know if ann was an elder or brown - im getting a bit lost now. I dont know a whole lot about these relatives - this is new ground!

Ann just before her wedding?? Is Brown her mothers maiden name?


1871 Scotland Census
about Ann Anderson
Name: Ann Anderson
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relationship: Grandaughter (Granddaughter)
Gender: Female
Where born: St Andrews, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 453
Registration district: St Andrews and St Leonards
Civil Parish: St Andrews
County: Fife
Address: Prirate House
Occupation: Lomes Serv
ED: 5A
Page: 18 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 79
Line: 22
Roll: CSSCT1871_78
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Anderson 21
Magdalen Brown 87

Ann Anderson possibly?? Ann is listed as neice... so we can be fairly sure her mothers maiden name was Elder? or could her mother's sister have married an Elder??


1861 Scotland Census
about Ann Anderson
Name: Ann Anderson
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: St Andrews, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 436
Registration district: Kilconquhar
Civil Parish: Kilconquhar
County: Fife
Address: St Ford Cotter House
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 3
Page: 10 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 47
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1861_57
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Anderson 11
Madeline Anderson 36
Magdeline Anderson 11
George Elder 40
George Elder 13
Robert Elder 15

yep

Colville Graham

mother ann anderson
father william graham

born st andrews fife

family members
ann 51 - approx 1850
william 57 - app 1844
annie 4 - 1897
colville 25 - 1875
magdeline 9 - 1892
margaret 16

I do know that covilles birthday was 13th June 1875.

and his parents ann and william married on march 30th 1872

1891 Scotland Census
about Colville Graham
Name: Colville Graham
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: St Andrews, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 453
Registration district: St Andrews And St Leonards
Civil Parish: St Andrews
County: Fife
Address: Rummond
ED: 14
Page: 14 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 69
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1891_139
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Graham 41
Annie Graham 4
Colville Graham 15
George Graham 13
Margaret Graham 6
William Graham 47

1901 Scotland Census
about Colville Graham
Name: Colville Graham
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: St Andrews, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 453
Registration district: St Andrews and St Leonards
Civil Parish: St Andrews and St Leonards
County: Fife
Address: Runmond Farm
Occupation: Masons Lab
ED: 14
Page: 14 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 67
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1901_145
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Graham 51
Annie Graham 4
Colville Graham 25
Magdeline Graham 9
Margaret Graham 16
William Graham 57

do you have any dates for Colville Graham?

01/04/1845 HENDERSON HENRY ISABEL FOULIS/ M Balmerino /FIFE

Thomas with is parents in 1851

1851 Scotland Census
about Thomas Henderson
Name: Thomas Henderson
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Isabel
Gender: Male
Where born: Balmerino, Fife
Parish Number: 409
Civil Parish: Balmerino
Town: Galdry
County: Fife
Address: Galdry
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 2
Page: 7 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 28
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1851_85
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Henderson 4 Mo
David Henderson 3
Henry Henderson 38
Isabel Henderson 25
Thomas Henderson 5

ah........well i hope you are better soon chick.


Wel ive got the 1861 census for Helen Robertson and they have

Helen 14
ann 54
John 48
Ann 13 - niece?

but i dont know where Christian and the other John went but they would have been 19 and 21 so possibly left the family home


Yeah - i have a few details about the other side like i said. I know he is written down on my mother in laws mums death certificate as Colin Colville Graham but he seems to be know as Colville graham and that his parents were Willaim Graham and Ann anderson.

I do have a print off for him in the 1901 census which says he was 25 and he had

ann graham 51
willaim graham 57
annie 4
colville 25
magdeline 9
margaret 16

Very very interesting this one....

Helen Robertson's 1851 census.... and a Laing there so def the right family !!

1851 Scotland Census
about Helen Robertson
Name: Helen Robertson
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: St Monance, Fife
Parish Number: 454
Civil Parish: St Monance
Town: St Monance
County: Fife
Address: Abercromby
ED: 1
Page: 34 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 145
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1851_93
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Laing 3 - Neice !!
Ann Robertson 45
Christian Robertson 9
Helen Robertson 4
John Robertson 38
John Robertson 11

we also need to work out how the McIntosh name fitsin?

dunno just had a throat infection thats gone to my chest, nothing antibiotics and bed rest won't cure....

that 1891 matches her perfectly at the McIntosh house!

Hey you dont fancy helpign with the Graham side do you? lol

what you sick with anyway or just the dreaded flu/cold lurgy?

shes not on the 1891 census though

wow maybe she was at her grandmas house that day? yeah i think this is definately the right family now line.

too much of a coincidence not to be i think

no Christina,,,, but this is def her dad !

maybeshe was at her grandparens after all??

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1891 Scotland Census
about Thomas Henderson
Name: Thomas Henderson
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Helen R
Gender: Male
Where born: Balmerino, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 415
Registration district: Ceres
Civil Parish: Ceres
County: Fife
Address: Newbigging Cottage
Occupation: Farm Serv
ED: 7
Page: 1 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 2
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1891_125
Household Members: Name Age
Helen I Henderson 11
Helen R Henderson 42
John R Henderson 3
Thomas Henderson 42

why isnt christina on these then? oh wait shes not born yet........