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I had a google and it seems there was a Bridge School at Wealdstone (Harrow) You might be able to write to the Local Education Authority (Brent?) for records of dad's admission etc.

also from google there was a John Grooms Orphange opened in 1932 in Edgeware, not sure if this is the right one.

Also Essex council, www.essexcc.gov.uk and search for family history, there is some kind of online catalogue, SEAX

Have to dash now, kids need computer for homework

Thats ok Nicki.
Beleive you me this thread has got very confusing from time to time.You are not the first.
A quick update for you.
We have all the infomation needed on the Sloper family tree. I firmly beleive that Herbert Sloper was my dads father and I have been able to trace many ancesters on the Sloper side.
We are now concentraing on my fathers mothers side Livermore. More importantly Dorotheas father who was Edwin Livermore.Trying to find out where he went when dischared from the Army,when he died and who Dorotheas mother was.
Are you with me so far?lol.Hope this clears things up a little.
Thanks
Dionne
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Thanks Selena
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remind me what was Edwins full name

Infact remind me of the bits we still need to complete the Livermore bit....

I think we are still trying to find what happened to Edwin/Edward after he walked away in 1944?

Edwin William Livermore
Born 1884 Maldon Essex

Dionne,

Has this bit been covered?

Description Medal card of Livermore, Edwin
Corps Regiment No Rank
Army Service Corps M2/267894 Private

Date 1914-1920
Catalogue reference WO 372/12
Dept Records created or inherited by the War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodies
Series War Office: Service Medal and Award Rolls Index, First World War
Piece Langley P A - McGrath D
Image contains 1 medal card of many for this collection


http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?queryType=1&resultcount=1&Edoc_Id=3874641


£3.50 to view immediately...

OR

Description Medal card of Livermore, Edwin
Corps Regiment No Rank
Royal Field Artillery L/4698 Driver

Date 1914-1920
Catalogue reference WO 372/12
Dept Records created or inherited by the War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodies
Series War Office: Service Medal and Award Rolls Index, First World War
Piece Langley P A - McGrath D
Image contains 1 medal card of many for this collection


One of them has to be him?

Wayne

I think Dionne said she'd got the 2 medal cards. I looked for any possible WW1 records for him, but they weren't there.

Also, thinking aloud - I don't know where the orphanage fits in -I assume there were no dates on the document. Why Clacton, when his school and address weren't close?? And when?? If we could track down where the records for the orphanage are held, perhaps the baptism might confirm his fathers details???

Hi.... sorry if this is duplication...

1891 England Census
about Edwin W Livermore
Name: Edwin W Livermore
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Willm
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Southminster, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Southminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alban
Town: Southminster
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Maldon
Sub-registration district: Southminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edith Annie Harvey 14
Alice Maud Livermore 1
Edwin W Livermore 6
Florence E Livermore 4
Sarah Ann Livermore 29
Willm Livermore 32

Clacton is close to where Edwin was born.... maybe other family connections there why that orphanage got used?

Sorry, I know I haven't read the whole thread, hope I'm not being a pain.

Diane

you are not being a pain at all.The more help the better and thankyou.

Wayne. I donloaded both of those medical cards and neither of those are our Edwin sorry.

Ann

I posted all the information that was on the admission record.

The only thing I forgot to write which was right at the bottom of the page was..

Destination..Twickenham
date of admission 26.09.51
payment 20 shillings a week.

Then on the other side of the page is a stamp Bisley 9th Sept 1954.

Dionne

Hi Dionne

As you know i was there at the beginning of your "journey" and found the sisters your dad didn't know he had .Been following the thread and seeing all the help others have given,
I'm glad now your dad has his "home" info even tho it reads very sad ,but i guess any child being put into a home has a sad story behind them. I hope your dad will be glad finally to know what happened to him as a little lad and hopefully he can lay some events to rest now

Its very sad how some children were treated and makes you realise how lucky you were to have had a happy home

Shirley.

Bookmarking - nearly missed my daily chapter...

How sad for your father Dionne to go through that as a child. This thread shows that family history research is not about badly transcribed names on a census page but about real people and their families.

Gail x

Hi Dionne

Just wondered how you got on today when you spoke to your dad about your findings?

Nicki

Hi Nicki

I have not been able to speak to my father today. I finished work this afternoon and had planned to go round and see him. But my mother took a nasty fall and he had to take her to the Hospital.She is ok but has fractured her wrist. So with all that excitement I didnt really want to add to it today. I will be telling him on Sunday when we go round for dinner.

Thanks for asking though Nicki.
Dionne
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Update...

I spoke to my father today and showed him the admission record for Bisley School. he used a few choice words about his mother but took the news ok.

On a positive note when I mentioned Clacton on Sea all of a suddern a memory came back to him. Diane mentioned that Clacton on Sea was close to where Edwin Dorotheas father was born.

My father told me that when he thinks of Clacton on Sea he thinks happy thoughts. Now this is the interesting bit. He said he can remember staying with a lady and he thinks her sister. They were lovly people. He remembers that in the hallway of the house lived a parrot. When you walked into the hall the parrot would swear. He remembers the parrot being taken of a merchant ship by one of the sisters and a man in Clacton.

Now my mind is saying to me do you think these ladies could have been Edwins sisters and the man was the husband of one of the sisters and worked on the ship? I know I might be clutching at straws again but it is just a thought.

I have also emailed a few people regarding trying to trace the adoptive sisters as I beleive the law has changed and siblings can try and track each other down.

Thas my update for today
Dionne
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Thanks for the update Dionne - this is the first thread I look at everyday.

Mary

Same here too

Clare

Thanks for posting that Dionne - interesting!!

I'm afraid we're at the end of the line as far as Edwin/Edward's military records are concerned. He wouldn't have recieved a pension, apparently - no wonder I couldn't find him in pension records!- and there's nowhere else to look.

Hi Ann

Thankyou again for looking for the information on Edwin.I had a feeling that you wouldnt be able to find anymore then you had.My husband didnt think he would have got a pension but then again you were talking of over seventy years ago and things have changed so much.

I will be honest and say I do feel a little sad knowing that I will never find out what happend to my fathers grandfather and who he married etc. But there you go. I am trying to find the two sisters that were adopted and that is a completely diferent ball game.

If Dorothea were alive today then there would be many questions that I would just love her to answer!!

Dionne
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