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Tina
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21 Sep 2007 11:00 |
My granny was a very cloak and dagger type of lady. Everything was a secret so i guess she had a very dodgy past that she wanted none of us to know about. Thing is i wanted to know when she was married. My grandfather died before i was born so i cant ask him and her daughter who is alive cant help me as she dont know. Her name was Doris Sear and my grandfather was william sidney pickett. She was born 28th december 1913 and died july 2002. Her birth place was in edlesborough bedfordshire and her death was in dacorum hemel hempstead. Im not sure if she married in dacorum but i do know my grandfather was a divorced man. I know nothing at all about him. Not his date of birth, place of birth or age when he died.
Please help me if you can. Im going around in circles here. Also im very new to this gene finding so please be kind :)
Thanks Tina
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jansmith
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21 Sep 2007 11:39 |
Do you have year of birth for her daughter as she may have married within 12mths before the birth
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Penny
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21 Sep 2007 11:57 |
is this her birth?
Name: Doris Sear Year of Registration: 1914 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Mother's Maiden Name: Seabrook District: Leighton Buzzard County: Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire Volume: 3b Page: 616
ou are going to need to find some more names ...otherwise its pure speculations
Marriages Jun 1903 Boarder Mary Lilian Leighton B. 3b 931 Seabrook Ethel Maud Leighton B. 3b 931 Sear Francis Leighton B. 3b 931 Thompson William Charles Leighton B. 3b 931
Marriages Mar 1903 (>99%) Gray Benjamin Leighton B. 3b 531 Janes Emma Sophia Leighton B. 3b 531 Seabrook Ellen Louisa Leighton B. 3b 531 Sear David Leighton B. 3b 531
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Brian
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21 Sep 2007 12:08 |
Found a William Sydney PICKETT born 1903 registered 2nd quarter, Edmonton, Essex/Herts/Midd.
Regards Brian
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Tina
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21 Sep 2007 12:13 |
Im sure that must be my Gran but why do they list her as being registered in the months of Jan-Feb-Mar 1914 when her date of birth is 28th december 1913 as on her death certificate.
Her mother was ellen Louisa Seabrook Her father was David Sear Her grandfather was jason Seabrook ( Ellen Louisa's father) Dont know who Ellen Louisa's mother was as i cant find that out.
Doris Picket and William Pickett had 6 children. Two of them died. One was 4 months old i believe and the other was around 18 months. The living children were
Catherine, Katherine, Cathelene, Kathelene( Not sure of spelling as this is all a big secret)
Ann Doris Pickett or Anne Doris Pickett
Marlene Barbara 17th August ???
William David Terence Nigel Pickett ( Died 1996) Not known
Richard Sidney Pickett DOB Not Known
Shirley Suzanne Pickett 29th November 1945
Anything else i can add please let me know but im limited on info as gran is now dead and i dont think any of her 12 other brothers and sisters are alive either.
Thank you everyone. You have been great.
Tina
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Tina
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21 Sep 2007 12:15 |
Thank you for that Brian. I knew that William Pickett my grandfather didnt come from Hemel hempstead where he married and lived with Gran.
Anyone know his date of death?
Tina
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Penny
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21 Sep 2007 12:18 |
her birth will have been registered in the 6 weeks following her birth - you wouldnt dash out and do it 3 days after christmas,reg office probaly shut anyway!- so went in the new year, when the next qtr had started - that is perfectly normal
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Tina
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21 Sep 2007 12:22 |
Thank you for that Scarlett Ribbons. I can see your point there. Im adding all of this to my notes. So much to learn. But being new i have a long way to go till im as experienced as you all here.
Tina
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Penny
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21 Sep 2007 12:24 |
Thats fine, take you time, go down one line at a time, or you'll get in a pickle.
really you need to send for the marriage cert to confirm her fathers name - i cannot see a Jason Sear in 1901 census anywhre, nor his birth
David, the Francis Sear marriage is the wrong one
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Penny
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21 Sep 2007 12:28 |
At the moment, I can see 8 David Sear on 1901 census- all in the Herts /Beds area
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David
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21 Sep 2007 12:30 |
Jason Seabrook is on the 1901 census with daughter Ellen. In 1891 Jason and wife Mary A (poss nee Simmons) are with daughters Susannah and Ellen.
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Penny
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21 Sep 2007 12:34 |
he's there in 1891 too
Name: Jason Seabrook Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Eddlesborough Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Eddlesborough County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Leighton Buzzard Sub-registration district: Edlesborough ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Seabrook 8 Jason Seabrook 49 Mary A Seabrook 48 Susannah Seabrook 12 ================================== Possibly Susannah in 1901- which suggests an older daughter too Name: Susan Seabrook Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Sister-in-law Gender: Female Where born: Eddlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Hemel Hempstead Ecclesiastical parish: Boxmoor St John County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Registration district: Hemel Hempstead Sub-registration district: Hemel Hempstead ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Dorothy Scrivener 9 Grace Scrivener 6 Mary A Scrivener 32 Sarah Scrivener 11 William Scrivener 34 Susan Seabrook 22
They are living on two waters Road - ( know that no longer has houses on it) ============================== she might be a Matilda , hang on!
1891 Name: William Scrivener Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Matilda Gender: Male Where born: Little Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Eddlesborough Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Eddlesborough County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England
Registration district: Leighton Buzzard Sub-registration district: Edlesborough ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Matilda Scrivener 22 Sarah Scrivener 3/12 William Scrivener 26
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Tina
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21 Sep 2007 12:37 |
Hi David
That has to be my grans grandfather as he was jason seabrook and i know he had a daughter they called Nellie so i assume that is ellen right? Im sure my gran stated she never married and ended up owning a house where she kept just chickens called mill house mill cottage or mill farm.
Now his other daughter should be Louisa Ellen but she went by the name Ellen. All confusing i know,lol.
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Penny
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21 Sep 2007 12:48 |
1881 -
Name: Matilda Seabrook Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Female Where born: Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Edlesborough County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Occupation: Strawplaiter Registration district: Leighton Buzzard Sub-registration district: Edlesborough ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Annie Seabrook 4 Mary Ann Seabrook 38 Matilda Seabrook 12 Susannah Seabrook 2 David Simmons 75 <<
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Penny
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21 Sep 2007 12:50 |
and 1871
Name: Jason Seabrook Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Edlesborough Town: Edlesborough County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Leighton Buzzard Sub-registration district: Edlesborough ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 145 Household Members: Name Age James H Seabrook 4 months Jason Seabrook 28 Mary A Seabrook 27 Mary A M Seabrook 2 ================================ marriage Name: Jason Seabrook /Mary Ann Simmons Year of Registration: 1864 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Leighton Buzzard County: Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire Volume: 3b Page: 927
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Penny
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21 Sep 2007 12:54 |
in 1861 Jason was a servant In Harpenden
Name: Jason Seabrook Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Harpenden County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England
looking at the image, i think he was a Carter , at NEW FARM
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David
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21 Sep 2007 12:57 |
In 1871 Jason and Mary A have:
Mary A c1869 James H c1870.
The race is on for 1851 ;-)
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Penny
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21 Sep 2007 13:01 |
1861 mary Ann at home pre marraige with her father david & mother Judith
Name: David S Simmons Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Judith Gender: Male Where born: Ringshall, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Edlesborough County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England
Registration district: Leighton Buzzard Sub-registration district: Edlesborough ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 45 Household Members: Name Age Betsy Simmons 22 David S Simmons 51 Judith Simmons 51 Mary Ann Simmons 17
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21 Sep 2007 13:03 |
1851 Name: Judith Simmons Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: David Gender: Female Where born: Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Edlesborough County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Leighton Buzzard Sub-registration district: Leighton Buzzard ED, institution, or vessel: 2d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Betsy Simmons 12 David Simmons 61 Emma Simmons 14 Jonathan Simmons 4 Judith Simmons 41 Levi Simmons 9 Mary Ann Simmons 7
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21 Sep 2007 13:08 |
1841 for the full set
Name: Judith Simmons Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Gender: Female Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Eddlesborough Hundred: Cottesloe County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Leighton Buzzard Sub-registration district: Eddlesborough Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Betsey Simmons 2 David Simmons 31 Emma Simmons 4 Judith Simmons 31
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