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John Ashley Evans b 1900

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Matthew

Matthew Report 19 Sep 2007 21:57

Trying to find relatives of John Ashley Evans b 1900 Birmingham. I know he married Marrgery Ivy Veronica Maggs b 1905 Welshpool Montgomery in 1923 Forden Montgomery.

Can anyone help??

Matthew Evans

MellieMob

MellieMob Report 19 Sep 2007 22:05

is this him?

EVANS John Astley Birmingham.6d 138 4 1900

Matthew

Matthew Report 19 Sep 2007 22:07

Could be if it was a spelling mistake.

MellieMob

MellieMob Report 19 Sep 2007 22:10

i had a look at the orginal and it does say astley so they could of typed it in wrong, but this is the only john evans in birmingham 1902

jansmith

jansmith Report 19 Sep 2007 22:14

Marriage index
John A Evans---Maggs
Forden
Volume 11b
page 210
Mar. quarter 1923
A certificate would hopefully give you his father's name

Matthew

Matthew Report 19 Sep 2007 22:15

How did he get to be in welshpool then as on 1901 I find a John A Evans born Birmingham age 4 months old living with mother Lizzie A Evans age 31 at 10 Union Street Welshpool but I can't find anything else.

No details for his father.

My grandfather Alfred Roy remembers his father living a 10 union street but can't remember if his mother was single or not.

Matthew

Matthew

Matthew Report 19 Sep 2007 22:16

Janice

If he was born an out of marriage will it still give his fathers name?

Matthew

MellieMob

MellieMob Report 19 Sep 2007 22:19

margery i v maggs 11b 210 1923 1st quarter

marriage

found there marriage but can't find her birth????

Matthew

Matthew Report 19 Sep 2007 22:22

Milie

neither can I that why I need help as none of my family have and birth, marriage or death certificates for any of them.

Matthew

jansmith

jansmith Report 19 Sep 2007 22:25

Possibly no father's name would be on the cert. then ,but it MIGHT give other family names if any were witness to the marriage.

MellieMob

MellieMob Report 19 Sep 2007 22:27

how do you know when margery maggs was born?

if she came from ireland or scotland then she will be hard to trace

also was it lizzie or elizabeth?

you have johns birth details his father will only be on there if his mum put him on there bit unlikely, but if john traced his father then he will be on his marriagre cert which you will need for margerys fathers details.

you have the numbers for both of them now.

Matthew

Matthew Report 19 Sep 2007 22:29

Cool will try get hold of his Marriage Certificate then.

Any chance you could help a little with my other Great Grandfather Benjamin George Gittins born 1906 Welshpool as I only know he married Catherine Evans. I have asked my family but they don't know anything about them.

Matthew

jansmith

jansmith Report 19 Sep 2007 22:31

http://www.gro.gov.uk Link for ordering certs. using details posted

MellieMob

MellieMob Report 19 Sep 2007 22:32

will look now for you also the question about how did john born in birm and then appear in welshpool


in them days it was a big sin to have children out of wedlock so oftern they were sent away to friends or other family to have the child and then come back

Matthew

Matthew Report 19 Sep 2007 22:33

Millie

We worked out that her year of birth was 1905 as on her grave stone it says she died 16/10/1954 age 49

Matthew

jansmith

jansmith Report 19 Sep 2007 22:33

Birth index
Benjamin George Gittins
1906
Quarter Dec
District: Forden
County: Montgomeryshire, Shropshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 150

Matthew

Matthew Report 19 Sep 2007 22:35

Your guess is as good as mine to how john born birmingham came to be in welshpool. but he did.
Thought he was born out of wedlock.

Matthew

MellieMob

MellieMob Report 19 Sep 2007 22:35

GITTINS Benjamin George Forden.11b 150 4 1906

if you get there cert it will be easier to find them as there inbetween before 1901 we can pick them up on the census and after 1911 we have the mothers mmn so its easy to find a marriage between parents and then pick them up on the census

jansmith

jansmith Report 19 Sep 2007 22:40

wonder if this could be her birth index
Ivy Margery V Maggs
1904
Quarter Dec
District: Chipping Sodbury
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 257

MellieMob

MellieMob Report 19 Sep 2007 22:42

well done janice i dont know how i missed that one? i normaly look for all posibilities

i would say that was her