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Hi Sylvia
I agree but I can't find a marriage as yet for Richard and Susannah.
Back to the drawing board!
Di

They could possibly be the same person ........ many people on here mention that their ancestors change names.

BUT ...............


Could Susannah be a second wife?


ie, Richard married Elizabeth Wilson, she died, and he then married Susannah



Sylvia

Sylvia
Sorry not to have replied sooner.
I have found the children on IGI and FreeBMD. I'm certain that the children are those of Wm and Elizabeth as they are lnkled to my family but wonder where Susannah comes in as she mentions them all in her will as well as Richard her husband does in his. (They say they are their children) The children inferred to are Elizabeth, Eliza, Richard and Rebecca. Rebecca married a Wm Oxley and is also mentioned in the will.
Could Susannah and Elizabeth be the same person? Elizabeth's maiden name is Wilson but I can't find a Susannah Wilson or Elizabeth S Wilson.
Sorry to go on.
Di

Is the record on the IGI "submitted" or "extracted"?


If "submitted" treat with EXTREME caution.

Submitted records are just that ........ submitted by members of the Mormon church, and it is gradually being realised that many of those records have been invented!

Extracted records have been taken from the parish records, but should still be treated with caution ............. mispellings and mistakes are common, just as they are with the censuses.



Sylvia (in Canada)

Right now I really am stuck.
On looking at the will of both Richard and Susannah Stanford they both leave equal shares to daughters Eliza, Elizabeth, Richard and Rebecca. IGI shows these children as being the daughter of Richard and Elizabeth but no sign of Susannah. Does this mean that Elizabeth and Susannah could be one and the same or do you think he could have married twice?. Obviously I don't have surnames for Elizabeth or Susannah.
Grrr.
Di

I have found a will of Susannah's which mentions her family. Dated 1843 she leaves Richard, Elizabeth and Eliza Stanford, Rebecca and William Oxley equal shares of her possessions. I'll look for the Oxleys and see what the link is. Rebecca is the daughter of Richard and Susannah and William Oxeys wife. (as written in the will)

Di

Reg
Thank you. I have access to all census but am guided by you good people on this site as you know the best way to get info.
Di

BTW...have you got the details of the birthplaces for the daughters?

Elizabeth is down in 1851 as having been born in Marlow, Bucks.....Eliza as Richmond, Surrey

Reg

Susannah isn't a problem - age-wise - the difference is within the proscribed range.........so look for her baptism c1772. (Once you find her maiden name!)

Both daughters could have been aged up to 40 in 1841........but there is still a discrepancy. However, people were not as sure of their birth info in those days, so you have to allow a fair bit of leeway.

Reg

Reg. Thank you
I'm lost now. So what range of ages am I now looking for in 1841 so I can look for their births please?

1841 census 'rounded down' to the nearest 5 the ages of all over-15's

Reg.

having relooked at the 2 censuses.
How can Elizabeth and Eliza be aged 36 and 35 in 1841 and then 55 and 50 in 1851 when there is only 10 years between each census. Even Susannah has aged 14 years in between them!!!
Any suggestions please.

Ceri
I know what you mean. One sunday afternoon I asked the youngest who was 24 at the time to check the oven for me as I was sat in the garden and he was indoors. He replied 'which one is the oven' and yes he was deadly serious. lol
He now knows and I have to add that they are both keen cooks.
Di

Kaz
Thank you. I will check this out as Eliza and Elizabeth wer both daughter's of Susannah. One born about 1796 and one about1801 on looking at 1851 census anyway. I'm trawling through the IGI site.
Di

If what i sent before is off use then im wondering if this could be the marriage of the said couple?

THOMAS STOVER STANFORD Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: SUSANNAH SMITH Family
Marriage: 10 MAY 1829 Ewell, Surrey, England

Faith

Came across this birth in Surrey for a Betsy Stanford even though i put in Eliza in the name box, mother is Susannah. any good?

BETSY STANFORD Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 31 JUL 1836 Chessington, Surrey, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THO. STONER STANFORD Family
Mother: SUSANNAH

lol
Good on them, so they should!! lol, my god, my partner didnt move out from his mums until he was 22 and he didnt even know how to turn a cooker on, let alone cook, he thought a iron was an ornament that the faries occasionally came in and used and well as for a washing machine... dont even go there!!

I soon changed things on that front...although in the 3 years we have lived together... it think the only thing he has managed to cook without burning...was spaghetti on toast for my 2 year olds lunch!!! Must remember to give him more lessons in that area especially with new baby on the way!!! I myself moved out from my parents when i was 16years old and had my own house from 19years old!! lol

Ceri

Hi Ceri
I will contact Kevin. Thanks for the suggestion. No she died before 1871 and I think Reg has given me the death but I need to confirm.

Both sons left home and returned 6 months later an no I don't spoil them, they do own cooking washing etc and have done their own ironing since aged 11.
Di

Faith
I just done a search on the thread boards for Middlesex parish records and the following person was offering look ups as he had them on disk it maybe worth contacting him and asking if he is still willing to do the look ups:

His name is Kevin Tedder.

Ceri

Dont envy you with a 28 yr old and 26yr old still living at home, lol! Bless them!
Although i bet its nice, to have them still there...well at least sometimes!!

Was she on 1861, or had she died between the two census's do you know?

Ceri