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sorry we couldn;t get a solution, but do drop me a pm if you get answers tho, be interested to know how you get on.

Sorry i couldn;t be more help!

hmmm it does happen, try calling the family liason people in the navy, her dad was listed as being in the marines? they may well be able to pinpoint where he was based, there were very few marines back then.... might not be as hard as you think. maybe her birth was not uk? if he was a serving man... she might have been born elsewhere. the military will be better placed to make a more modern association between emily dorothy and benjamin williams

My goodness see what you mean.

I'll say goodnight and thanks again for all your efforts its really appreciated

night then

Lorraine

right chuck time for bed, i'm up in 4 hours to start all over again.........

Know what you mean my great uncle , my fathers uncle.

We knew him as uncle jack nash

and my grandfather as hector gubbins nash

They were army births

and most sibling not born in this country

I had g father marriage cert. his father was on that and he was chef at barracks

hector was in the 2nd battalion lancashire regiment

and so it turned out was charles his dad.

Couldn't find hector s birth anywhere

I knew when and where he was born sent for a trace of a hector gubbin nash

no joy.

Then after sending for a death certificate of uncle jacks wife because we knew where she lived and died

And who should he husband be but Horace Charles nash

right address ect.

so rechecked the army births and baptisms

and lo an behold the of charles and sarah nash

fitting in with the other children born in this country/

Same army number.

My grandad was wrongly registered

as Charles Bertram Nash,

father Charles Bertram

Instead of hector gubbins nash

email the library, their local studies people get paid to follow things up..!! make them earn their money!

i would of thought not, war was happening.... Have you tried to trace her dad thru the military?

I am trying to locate a local paper .

They'd didn't have them at records office but they did say that there may be some at the tredegar library

very !!! i've had to unravel 3 this week in our lot! annie being the prime example, mary ann was her name but she used annie on all official stuff except her birth cert!! just sorted an 'uncle bill' out on my side of the family, turns out his name was archibald!

Would he not be able to give him over to his sister then without some sort of involvement with SS

tried the local paper for obituries? if the death was as tragic as it sounds it may have made local news? or at least some kind of memorial notice put in?

I wonder how common it was for someone to add a name but it isn't there official or baptised name

well if i were you i'd talk to the church she's buried in

You need to ask who booked and paid for the plot. That may give you some clue as to whats happened. have you thought of local social services for where the child was born? He couldn;t even then just hand the child over, there may well be adoption papers, giving the mothers full details of birth etc.

that family was very fond of the name john it seems

John and mary

thomas and sarah he had a brother called john

john and elizabeth

John g and clara

john g and emily

even hubbys brother second name is john lol

thats John George worgan JG's father and mother

John George worgan hubbys grandad.

he never knew him saw him from a bus his dad pointed him out.

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Marriages Jun 1882 (>99%)
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BIDDLE Alice Chepstow 11a 27
Foxall Thomas Chepstow 11a 27
James Clara Chepstow 11a 27
Worgan John George Chepstow 11a 27

If they were given a seperate room the non-smokers would follow thereby defeating the object

who's this john george then?

Yes it must be difficult for Landlords