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need help finding missing family (surrey 1891/1901

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Tiamo

Tiamo Report 14 Dec 2004 10:51

Time to draw on the troops. Where are you, Rosemary. I've been pretty usless on this one!

Unknown

Unknown Report 14 Dec 2004 10:49

Shameless nudge....

Unknown

Unknown Report 13 Dec 2004 23:00

Oh yes, so she is. You know what, after using ancestry for 10 months or so, I think thats the first time I've ever found anything in the world tree. Thanks :) Jim.... Thanks again re: Rosina HALL... Now, back to Clara :o)

Thelma

Thelma Report 13 Dec 2004 22:53

paul if you are using full ancestry? rosina is in world tree.

Tiamo

Tiamo Report 13 Dec 2004 22:49

You need to check her out on 1901 with married name,methinks.

Unknown

Unknown Report 13 Dec 2004 22:40

OK, I've just searched through Ancestry again and found the marriage for Rosina Jane HALL. Others on the same page were; Bond, William Canniford, Arthur John Giles, David Allum If it's not a silly question, how have you narrowed it down to David Giles Jim ?

Unknown

Unknown Report 13 Dec 2004 22:32

Jim The family in Twickenham don't appear to be correct... different wife and children... unless there was some bigamy going on ! Am interested in the marriage for Rosina though - where did you find it ? Paul

Tiamo

Tiamo Report 13 Dec 2004 22:30

Go on,then - find Clara!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, now the fairy story is that all the kids married,all parents died and Clara disappeared. She has got to be there,somewhere. Even checked under Clare.

Tiamo

Tiamo Report 13 Dec 2004 22:04

Oh, b*****

Tiamo

Tiamo Report 13 Dec 2004 21:47

Glad it wasn't just me! You also verified that none of that lot witnessed the marriage. Maybe Clara went with them but returned. Very difficult to prove. Have you found any marriages for those girls - had a look on Ancestry but nothing showing. The other stuff did show on Ancestry so???? Good luck,Tricia

Unknown

Unknown Report 13 Dec 2004 19:54

In answer to an earlier question, I can't find any of the family in the 1881 either. The following (with approximate ages) are all missing.. James HALL 46 Ann Margaret HALL (nee HUGHES) 41 Alfred James Richard HALL 18 Annie Isabella HALL 17 William Charles HALL (deceased I think, he's not there in 1871) Mary Helen HALL 11 Rosina Jane HALL 10 Maybe they DID emigrate ? Paul

Unknown

Unknown Report 13 Dec 2004 18:53

Carrie, Thanks for that. Sadly she's not "mine". I did think she may have been for a long time... Surbiton isn't a million miles from Richmond. However, I've found a Clara Hall in Surbiton in 1891, and she's living with her parents - they're not the right family. Thanks anyway ! As for witnesses at Clara's wedding... The wedding was 20/5/1903 at St James, West Hampstead... The witnesses were Alfred Thomas SMITH (her husbands brother) and Alice HUTTON. Paul

Tiamo

Tiamo Report 13 Dec 2004 17:58

Who were the witnesses on Clara's marriage cert - any clues there??

Unknown

Unknown Report 13 Dec 2004 16:58

I'll double check this when I get home from work... I'm not 100% sure. Thanks again Paul

Tiamo

Tiamo Report 13 Dec 2004 16:56

I have known families emigrate and then return. What is unusual here is that not only are this family missing but also Alfred's parents. For instance -did you find them all in 1881 -I'm getting a bit tired so could have missed them.

Unknown

Unknown Report 13 Dec 2004 16:49

NB, thanks so much for taking the time to look... and I do know what you mean about the eyes, after doing a load of 1841 census lookups recently !

Unknown

Unknown Report 13 Dec 2004 16:48

Well there is another Clara Hall, Similar age, born in Surbiton (not a million miles away) but just found her on the 1891 (having previously seen her on 1901) and wrong parents, so at least I've ruled her out. I guess it's possible her mother remarried... but She was still Clara HALL when she married.

Tiamo

Tiamo Report 13 Dec 2004 16:45

What if..... Alfred died.......Annie re-married and Clara didn't like being called Clara and called herself something else and on top of that they mis-transcribed both her names. I have checked all b***** Jane's born in Richmond as well under Hall and others but what if they didn't quite put the same birthplace either. Tricia - got to be out there somewhere(your relatives,not me)

Unknown

Unknown Report 13 Dec 2004 16:40

Thank you for the information... it all matches what I already had... perhaps you can see what I mean now though... they're all hiding come census night !

Tiamo

Tiamo Report 13 Dec 2004 16:16

We can tell you everything except what you want to know. Where the devil are they on the census?? HALL, Alfred James R 1881 September Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex 1c 413 MARRINER, Robert Henry 1881 September Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex 1c 413 Russell, Charlotte Elizabeth 1881 September Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex 1c 413 WILKINSON, Annie 1881 September Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex 1c 413