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Alan Date Warrant First name Last name Rank Number Station Reason PO Date 16/04/1888 73578 FREDERICK KNIGHTS PC 66 D JOINED 14/09/1889 73578 FREDERICK KNIGHTS PC 66 D To 552 H 16/09/1889 26/07/1890 73578 FREDERICK KNIGHTS PC 95 H To 89 E 28/07/1890 16/04/1892 73578 FREDERICK KNIGHTS PC 89 E DISCIPLINARY 24/08/1893 73578 FREDERICK KNIGHTS PC 89 E To 509 K (DISCIPLINARY) 25/08/1893 29/06/1893 73578 FREDERICK KNIGHTS PC 89 E DISCIPLINARY 31/01/1895 73578 FREDERICK KNIGHTS PC 509 K PENSIONED 26/01/1895 Disciplinaries were often for drunkenness. D = Marylebone H= Whitechapel E= Bow Street K= Limehouse As he retired in 1895 you won't find him as a policeman in 1901. Chances are he has been mistranscribed! nell

Thank you so much Helen.

Silly me. I've gone red... The man in question was William WHYBREW. Thanks again Nel. Roger Senior Moments.

Hi Nell I have a Metropolitan Police Constable on 1901 census: William CARTER, aged 32, born Kings Norton, Worcs address on census: 1 Walton Villas, Manor Rd, Enfield, London. Wife Harriet, born Plumstead. On 1891 census, William was at Police Station, Hunter Place, Pancras, London as a police officer aged 22. Any help with details re his police service much appreciated. Barbara

Hi Nell, do you by any chance know how to check details of City of London Police Officers?? Thanks for the Met info. Very useful. Jenny

Roger No Whybrew, but there is a Whybrow, who was in T div when he retired: Date Warrant First name Last name Rank Number Station Reason PO Date 29/03/1886 52689 WILLIAM WHYBROW PC B To A 01/04/1886 02/12/1886 52689 WILLIAM WHYBROW PC 836 A To 191 T (DISCIPLINARY) 03/12/1886 06/05/1895 52689 WHYBROW PC 191 T PENSIONED 05/05/1895 nell

Barbara This could be him Date Warrant First name Last name Rank Number Station Reason PO Date 11/04/1903 73893 CARTER PC Y GRATUITY 06/04/1903 13/08/1888 73893 WILLIAM CARTER PC 456 E JOINED 23/09/1895 73893 WILLIAM CARTER PC 85 E To 457 Y 24/09/1895 11/04/1903 73893 CARTER PC Y GRATUITY 06/04/1903 E is Bow Street Y is Kentish town. Gratuity means he resigned without a pension. There's also: 02/07/1883 61719 WILLIAM CARTER PC 101 L To Y (DISCIPLINARY) 03/07/1883 L is Lambeth. and 02/08/1886 72008 WILLIAM CARTER PC 466 D JOINED 03/12/1890 72008 WILLIAM CARTER PC 366 D To 482 P 04/12/1890 07/12/1901 72008 WILLIAM CARTER PC 482 P DISCIPLINARY 16/05/1903 72008 WILLIAM CARTER PC 482 P To 707 N (Disc.) 18/05/1903 07/07/1903 72008 WILLIAM CARTER PC N PENSIONED 01/07/1903 nell

Jenny And anyone else with City of London policemen: The City of London Police: Registers listing every member of the force since warrant numbers were introduced on 9 April 1832 together with personal files on 95% of officers who have served since that date have been transferred from the City of London Police Records Office to the Corporation of London Record Office, PO Box 270, Guildhall, London, EC2P 2EJ (Tel: 020 7332 1251) I have obtained useful info about yet another great-uncle who was a City copper from the above by e-mailing CLRO[at]corpoflondon.gov.uk nell nell

Hi Could you please see if you can find anything on John Bawden for me, he joined the police force sometime between 1845 and 1851, lived at Nelsons Grove, Nelsons Fields Merton, Surrey. At the time of the 1861 census he was age 37. He retired prior to the 1881 census. Sorry I cant be more specific as I dont have access to any information as I am in Australia. Regards Christina

Thanks Nel. That is my man. He was Born Wybrow, his father was Wibrow married Wybrow . In the Police as Whybrow,then married again as Whybrew and died as Whybrew. All five of his children by both marriages were Whybrew. I am and have always been a Whybrew so I hope that in 100 years time anyone trying to find me will have some chance. Thanks for your help. Roger GC

Hi Nell Many thanks for the info re William CARTER. Will now have to sort out a trip to Kew to see the rest of information about him. This is brilliant. Thank you so much. Barbara

My husbands gt gt grandad was a police officer in the Manchester police so we phoned up the Manchester Police Museum with vaue details and the very nice chappy there gave us his service record information over the telephone, a few weeks later we then visited the museum too. We thought husbands family were as English as they come but from the service records found out that they are as Irish as they come!! Have fun hunting Helen

Christine sorry, no John Bawden. nell

Nell, thanks so much for the info on City Police. Really appreciate your help. Jenny

Rob I've e-mailed you. Don't worry, this thread will stay (or be replaced with a new one if it gets too long) whilst people still want look-ups. nell

Thanks for trying Nell. Regards Christina

Nell - Thank you for checking Charles Gosling. Do the records relate to those who retired in the Met Police which would then tell me that Charles Gosling must have transferred to another police force after the 1901 census was taken? Jan

Yvonne This is what police-orders has: Date Warrant First name Last name Rank Number Station Reason PO Date 47892 GOODFELLOW JOINED 03/04/1893 47802 GOODFELLOW PC 181 D PENSIONED 02/04/1893 20/05/1901 60348 GOODFELLOW PC 99 W PENSIONED 19/05/1901 21/06/1902 1989 JAMES GOODFELLOW PC D 14 Day Rejoin More Info None of these seem to fit your dates. Sorry! nell

Janice I am merely checking names against the police-orders database, which is by no means complete. It provides the warrant number which you can use to check records at Kew. If your relative transferred to another force, I think it will be on his service record at Kew. nell

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