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I can do 1881 Scottish Census look ups and also 1851 Census Lanarkshire Index (not full census). 1881 covers all of Scotland but are transcriptions not images. The transcriptions give you all the information from the actual census image so you will be given names relationship to head of household, occupation, birthplace, age and address - it is also possible to view the neighbours quite easily!! 1851 Lanarkshire Census Index covers 37 Parishes of the County of Lanarkshire excluding Glasgow Parishes.It will give Name, age Birthplace, which parish they were living in. I can also tell you who with the same name is on the same page which of course is likely to be other family members, but I can't tell you relationships, occupations or actual addresses. (I also have the 1851 Census name index for the parish of Auchterarder in Perthshire - Also Monumental Inscriptions for South Perthshire pre 1855 and Monumental Inscriptions for Upper Ward of Lanarkshire pre 1855 If these are of any use!!) THREAD NOW CLOSED WILL BE BACK AFTER THE EASTER HOIDAYS Cheers Michelle

Mark Have you any idea what age they both were in 1881? Here is the list of Robert Gilfillan's in the index. Name Relationship Birthyear Birthplace Census Place GILFILLAN, Robert Head <1810> Stir Lana GILFILLAN, Robert Head <1815> Irel Stir GILLFILLAN, Robert Lodg <1818> Scot Nthu GILFILLAN, Robt. Head <1832> Stir Stir GILLFILLAN, Robert Head <1834> Scot Durh GILFILLAN, Robt. Head <1838> Lana Lana GILFILLAN, Robt. Head <1839> Lana Lana GILFILLAN, Robert Bord <1841> Irel Stir GILFILLAN, Robert Yuil Head <1844> Lana Renf GILFILLAN, Robert Son <1847> Ayr Ayr GILFILLAN, Robert Head <1849> Stir Stir GILFILLAN, Robert Head <1853> Lana Lana GILFILLAN, Robert Head Lodg <1856> Stir Dunb GILFILLAN (RAMAGE), Robert Neph <1860> Lana Lana GILLFILLAN, Robert Son <1862> Nthu Durh GILFILLAN, Robert Son <1865> Fife Fife GILFILLAN, Robert Son <1866> Fife Clac GILFILLAN, Robt. <1866> Lana Lana GILFILLAN, Robt. Son <1867> Lana Lana GILFILLAN, Robert Son <1870> Stir Stir GILFILLAN, Robert Son <1871> Ayr Ayr GILFILLAN, Robert Son <1871> Fife Fife GILFILLAN, Robert Son <1874> Lana Lana GILFILLAN, Robert Mackellar Son <1876> Renf Renf GILFILLAN, Robert Son <1877> Renf Renf GILFILLAN, Robert Son <1879> Stir Stir If you have any further info I could narrow it down - was Annie b1900 their first child? Cheers Michelle

Jannette I can only look up the 1881 census for you, so James won't feature!! But I found 5 Barclay families listed in Govan which I have listed below as they may be related. Dwelling: Broomloan Rd Broomloan Cottage Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203686 GRO Ref Volume 646-1 EnumDist 27 Page 37 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James BARCLAY M 39 M Stranraer, Wigtown, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Ship Smith (Foreman) Catherine BARCLAY M 36 F Port Glasgow, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Wife Robert BARCLAY U 16 M Port Glasgow, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Ship Draughtsman (App) Mary BARCLAY U 14 F Port Glasgow, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Daur James BARCLAY 11 M Port Glasgow, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar John BARCLAY 6 M Govan, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar William BARCLAY 4 M Govan, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Elizabeth BARCLAY 2 F Govan, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Thomas BARCLAY 3 m M Govan, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Robert BARCLAY U 29 M Ladyburn, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Brother Occ: Ship Smith Dwelling: 947 Govan Road Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203687 GRO Ref Volume 646-1 EnumDist 39 Page 8 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James BARCLAY M 36 M Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Shipjoiner Eliz. A. BARCLAY M 35 F Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Wife John BARCLAY U 6 M Govan, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son William BARCLAY U 4 M Govan, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Dwelling: 21 Polmadie St Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203673 GRO Ref Volume 644-11 EnumDist 114 Page 3 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William BARCLAY M 36 M Kilbirnie, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Railway Clerk Janet BARCLAY M 32 F Stair, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Railway Clerks Wife James G. BARCLAY 4 M Govan, Renfrew, Scotland William BARCLAY 2 M Govan, Renfrew, Scotland Dwelling: 40 Logie St Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203687 GRO Ref Volume 646-1 EnumDist 38 Page 60 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Wiliam BARCLAY M 34 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Ship Smith Jane BARCLAY M 30 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Wife Thomas BARCLAY 7 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Isabella BARCLAY 5 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur James BARCLAY 3 M Govan, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Christina BARCLAY 1 F Govan, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Alexander MC AUSLAN W 62 M Dunbarton, Scotland Rel: Lodger Occ: Smiths Labourer James HURM U 24 M Fife, Scotland Rel: Lodger Occ: Engine Fitter At Works Dwelling: 47 Langlands Rd Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203687 GRO Ref Volume 646-1 EnumDist 38 Page 28 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William J. BARCLAY M 21 M Ireland Rel: Head Occ: Painter Agnes BARCLAY M 19 F Wigtown, Scotland Rel: Wife Jane BARCLAY 3 m F Govan, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Cheers Michelle

Mark I checked all the Robert's on the list but none of them are with an Elizabeth. I would guess that Robert if he died in 1942 could be single in 1881 and therefore living with his family so an idea of his age then would narrow it right down. Cheers Michelle

Jannette You can always contact me personally but I don't have the images only the transcriptions, which I have given you. Even on the scotlandspeople site they only have transcribed information not the original images. Ancestry has images for the 1881 but only for England and Wales!! cheers Michelle

dear michelle, could you please look up a ella macdonald, born about 1901 in liverpool maybe scotland, thanks sue xx

Sue I would love to help you but as she was born in 1901c she won't feature on the 1881 census or the 1851 index that I have. The best place to try for births for scotland would be the scotlandspeople site but it would help if you knew whereabouts in Scotland you think she was born. I did check my copy of the British Isles Vital Records Index for Scotland but nothing for an Ella Macdonald came up. Cheers Michelle

hi michelle any chance you can look up David ANDERSON, married Margaret LIVINGSTON/LIVINGSTONE, married 19 or 21/03/1853 saline, fife. children robert anderson age 27 john anderson age 25 taimemi anderson age 22 catherine livingstone andreson age 20 david anderson age 19 james hugh anderson age 16 alexander anderson age 13 thomas morton anderson age10 an address if poss would be great. thanks in advance leanne x

Leanne Hi Do you know the birthplaces of the children and that of David and Margaret - you say they were married in Fife but do you know if they were in fife in 1881 and were those ages you quoted the ages expected in1881? Cheers Michelle

hi michelle sorry, those were the ages in 1881 (or should be!) the children were all born in saline fife, i dont know if david and margaret were born in saline. hope that helps thanks leanne x

leanne Hi I think this is Margaret as a widow - see what you think while I see if I can track the other children down!! Dwelling: No 4 Cowstrandburn Census Place: Saline, Fife, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203531 GRO Ref Volume 455 EnumDist 2 Page 4 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Margaret ANDERSON W 55 F Loched, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Annuitant Robert ANDERSON U 26 M Saline ((Coalmacnaughton)), Fife, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Mason Jemima M. ANDERSON U 22 F Saline, Fife, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Dressmaker James H. ANDERSON 15 M Saline, Fife, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Appr Tailor cheers Michelle

Leanne This may be a possibel for David Jnr Dwelling: Eastfield Census Place: Saline, Fife, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203531 GRO Ref Volume 455 EnumDist 4 Page 2 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Andrew PATERSON U 53 M Saline, Fife, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Farmer Of 112 Acres Joseph FRASER U 24 M Sauchie, Clackmannan, Scotland Rel: Servt Occ: Farm Servant David ANDERSON U 18 M Saline, Fife, Scotland Rel: Servt Occ: Farm Servant David WRIGHT U 15 M Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland Rel: Servt Occ: Farm Servant Mary CAMPBELL U 18 F Ireland Rel: Servt Occ: Sert Domestic Here is the nearest for John - Dwelling: 10 Yeaman Place Census Place: Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0223990 GRO Ref Volume 685-1 EnumDist 31 Page 31 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John ANDERSON M 23 M Saline, Fife, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Carter Marion ANDERSON M 20 F Corstorphine, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Wife Janet S. ANDERSON 2 F Colinton, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Mary ANDERSON 7 m F Colinton, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur But nothing for the others at all. cheers Michelle

thanks a lot michelle thats really helped. leanne x

I am interested in the 1851 Douglas area. Any of the Lawcock family. I am also confused over the McKerrow and Sloan families. I think there is a McKerrow child in a Sloan household listed as grandson. and a McKerrow in a Dickson household listed as son but older siblings are Dicksons. Just cant work it out. If you have the images it would be great to have a look. If not then anything on the McKerrow or Lawcocks would be great. Thanks Gloria Douglas and Glasgow areas

Gloria Hi - did you see my reply on my other thread on parish registers, I put some Monumental Inscriptions for Lawcocks in St Bride's Church Douglas on for you to have a look at. Unfortunately I only have the 1851 census name index so sorry haven't got images and can't tell you relationships!! However I always like to give something so have listed all that I found on the two names from the BIVRI and have listed all the Lawcocks/McKerrow's that came up on the 1851 index. The listing with Alexander McKerrow aged 15 living (i Think) with the Dicksons is very interesting to me as James Dickson b 1800c Douglas (parents Walter Dickson and mother Maren Carmichael) is one of my ancestors!! A Helen Dickson from Douglas married a Thomas Sanderson from Walston and they are my great great grandparents!! LAWCOCK, Gavin Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 25 May 1815 Christening Date: 31 May 1815 Recorded in: Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland Father: Andrew LAWCOCK Mother: Janet LAWCOCK Source: FHL Film 1066589 Dates: 1749 - 1855 LAWCOCK, Marion Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 12 Mar 1817 Christening Date: 20 Mar 1817 Recorded in: Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland Father: Andrew LAWCOCK Mother: Janet LAWCOCK Source: FHL Film 1066589 Dates: 1749 - 1855 LAUCOCK, Gavin Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 5 Dec 1818 Christening Date: 14 Dec 1818 Recorded in: Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland Father: Andrew LAUCOCK Mother: Janet LAUCOCK Source: FHL Film 1066589 Dates: 1749 - 1855 LAWCOCK, James Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 26 Feb 1822 Christening Date: 11 Mar 1822 Recorded in: Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland Father: Andrew LAWCOCK Mother: Janet LAWCOCK Source: FHL Film 1066589 Dates: 1749 - 1855 LAWCOCK, Gavin Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 25 Feb 1830 Christening Date: 5 Apr 1830 Recorded in: Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland Father: James LAWCOCK Mother: Marion MUIR Source: FHL Film 1066589 Dates: 1749 - 1855 LAWCOCK, William Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 11 Dec 1830 Christening Date: 13 Jan 1831 Recorded in: Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland Father: Andrew LAWCOCK Mother: Janet LAWCOCK Source: FHL Film 1066589 Dates: 1749 - 1855 AWCOCK, James Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 23 Aug 1834 Christening Date: 19 Oct 1834 Recorded in: Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland Father: James LAWCOCK Mother: Marion MUIR Source: FHL Film 1066589 Dates: 1749 - 1855 MCKERROW, Agnes Carmichael Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 26 Jan 1808 Christening Date: 30 Jul 1808 Recorded in: Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland Father: Archibald MCKERROW Mother: Agnes CARMICHAEL Source: FHL Film 1066589 Dates: 1749 - 1855 MCKERROW, Alexander Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 19 Jun 1835 Christening Date: 23 Jul 1835 Recorded in: Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland Father: John MCKERROW Mother: Jean SLOAN Source: FHL Film 1066589 Dates: 1749 - 1855 MCKERROW, William Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 25 Dec 1838 Christening Date: 11 May 1839 Recorded in: Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland Father: Alexander MCKERROW Mother: Jane SLOAN Source: FHL Film 1066589 Dates: 1749 - 1855 1851 name index details James Lawcock aged 63 born Lesmahagow living in the parish of Douglas Dist 6 Page 1 No 1 Marion Lawcock aged 52 born Douglas living in parish of Douglas Dist 6 Page 1 No 3 Gavin Lawcock aged 21 born Douglas living in the parish of Douglas Dist 6 Page 1 No 4 living about 2 families away!! James Dickson aged 50 born Douglas living in parish of Douglas Dist 6 Page 1 No 9 Margaret Dickson aged 50 born Douglas living in the parish of Douglas Dist 6 Page 1 No10 Elizabeth Dickson aged 28 born Douglas living in the parish of Douglas Dist 6 Page 1 No 11 Walter Dickson aged 22 born Douglas living in the parish of Douglas Dist 6 Page 1 No 12 Alexander McKerrow aged 15 born Douglas living in the parish of Douglas Dist 6 Page 1 No 13 Andrew Lawcock aged 70 born LKS Strathaven living in the parish of Douglas Dist 6 Page 2 No 1 Andrew Lawcock aged 19 born Douglas living in the parish of Douglas Dist 6 Page 2 No 3 John Lawcock aged 11 born Douglas living in the parish of Douglas Dist 6 Page 2 No 4 Isabella Lawcock aged 22 born Douglas living in the parish of Douglas Dist 6 Page 2 No 5 Jane Lawcock aged 12 born Douglas living in the parish of Douglas Dist 6 Page 2 No 6 James Lawcock aged 16 born Douglas living in the parish of Douglas Dist 6 Page 2 No 7 Janet McKerrow aged 46 born LKS Strathaven living in the parish of Avondale Dist 8 Page 14 No 9 Jean Muir aged 38 born LKS Strathaven living in the parish of Avondale Dist 8 Page 14 No 10 James McKerrow aged 2 born LKS Strathaven living in the parish of Avondale Dist 8 Page 14 No 11 Marion McKerrow aged 62 born Avondale living in the parish of Avondale Dist 11 Page 15 No 6 Janet McKerrow aged 37 born Lesmahagow living in the parish of Bothwell Dist 2 Page 29 No 7 William McKerrow aged 50 born Ayrshire living in the parish of Cadder Dist 5 Page 13 No 20 William McKerrow aged 15 born Camunnock living in the parish of Cambuslang Dist 7 Page 1 No 19 Mary McKerrow aged 74 living in the parish of Douglas Dist 1 Page 1 No 11 More to follow in next reply!! Cheers Michelle

Gloria Part Two!! William Sloan aged 55 born Douglas living in the parish of Douglas Dist 2 Page 2 No 1 Catherine Sloan aged 56 born Carmichael living in the parish of Douglas Dist 2 Page 2 No 2 James Sloan aged 16 born Douglas living in the parish of Douglas Dist 2 Page 2 No 3 William McKerrow aged 12 born Douglas living in the parish of Douglas Dist 2 Page 2 No 4 Jean McKerrow aged 18 born Cathcart living in the parish of East Kilbride Dist 5 Page 4 No 16 Agnes McKerrow aged 52 born Ayr Muirkirk living in the parish of Lesmahagow Dist 9 Page 17 No 9 John McKerrow aged 52 born Ayr Muirkirk living in the parish of Pettinain Dist 2 Page 3 No 14 Elizabeth McKerrow aged 53 born Carnwath living in the parish of Pettinain Dist 2 Page 3 No 15 Mary McKerrow aged 35 born Ayr Muirkirk living in the parish of Wandell & Lamington Dist 1 Page 3 No 19 Margaret McKerrow aged 19 born LKS Airdrie living in the parish of Wiston & Roberton Dist 3 Page 9 No 20 Jane McKerrow aged 42 born Sorn living in the parish of Hamilton & Symington Dist 4 Page 100 No 19 Mary McKerrow aged 20 born Lanark living in the parish of Hamilton & Symington Dist 4 Page 100 No 20 Hopefully you can find someone who has the actual image pages to sort out the relationships!! cheers Michelle

Hi Michelle, I'm trying to break one of my brick walls, so am hoping you'll be able to spot James Shearer born circa 1838 on your name index for 1851. His father was also James Shearer. Unfortunately I do not have a birthplace for either person. I am hoping to find him in Lanarkshire as he apparently married in Glasgow in January of 1852 to Mary Irvine born circa 1834 - this date comes from several of the childrens birth records. I have been unable to find this marriage on scotlandspeople or the IGI and wonder if it ever took place as James was probably only 14!! Perhaps you would know where I should look next!! Mary Irvine is dead and James Shearer (jnr) in England in 1881 so they won't be on that census. I am sorry this doesn't give you any decent info to find them in 1851 but I'm clutching at straws somewhat!! I really appreciate you looking but please don't spend too long trying if you can't see these devious, hiding rellies first time!!! Thank you very much, Jenny

Jenny hi There is only one James Shearer aged 13 that could be a possible and he was born in Ireland so that could answer why you can't find a birth for him. James Shearer aged 42 born Ireland living in parish of Old Monkland Dist 42 Page 12 No 12 Agens Shearer aged 39 born Ireland living in parish of Old Monkland Dist 42 Page 12 No 13 Thomas Shearer aged 16 born Ireland living in parish of Old Monkland Dist 42 Page 12 No 14 James Shearer aged 13 born Ireland living in the parish of Old Monkland Dist 42 Page 12 No 15 Margaret Shearer aged 4 born Ireland living in the parish of Old Monkland Dist 42 Page 12 No 16 John Shearer aged 1 boren Old Monkland living in parish of Old Monkland Dist 42 Page 12 No 17 This family were in Ireland in 1847c and were in Old Monkland for the birth of their son John in 1850c. Cheers Michelle

Thank you so much Michelle. It's certainly a possibility. I can now investigate!!! Very much appreciated! Jenny

Maybe our Dicksons are related!! i am trying to work my way back to THOMAS'THEDOUGHTY'DICKSON James Dickson McKerrow is my great grandfather. named after Thomas Dickson, Gloria