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Ancestors from Portland, Dorset? (LOOKUP OFFER)
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McDitzy | Report | 20 Apr 2005 21:30 |
I have the Portland Historical Records CD transcribed by K.V. Saunders. It has BMD, some wills, reconstructed families, 1841 census etc for Portland ONLY. Am happy to do look ups on it. It is a fantastic CD, only cost £20! Please be specific as possible and limit any blank surname searches to the bare minimum. NO PERSONAL MESSAGES. THEY WILL BE IGNORED. Chloe |
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Kazzie | Report | 20 Apr 2005 21:36 |
Thats good Chloe do you know if do other Dorset ones?if so where could get one from my 1851 census is crap Kazzie |
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McDitzy | Report | 20 Apr 2005 21:41 |
I don't know. K.V. Saunders transcribed the records mostly because he has ancestry rooted in Portland (nice imbred lot they were)! I bought if from the Somerset & Dorset Family History Society. This is where I found it - http://www.sdfhs.*org/Pubs.htm Have you tried Dorset OPC? More and more info is being put on that and they have a search facility. There are name indexes sold here - http://www.dorsetcc.*gov.uk/index.jsp?articleid=2853 |
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Kazzie | Report | 20 Apr 2005 21:45 |
Yeah use Dorset o.p.c all the time ,am going to join the Dorset and somerset history group as have the meeting just over rd from me,so will have a look at what they have,I know this is alot to ask as hundreds of them on Portland but am trying to find John and Mary White she was born 1800 Abbotsbury know of two children Mary 1835 and Elizabeth 1840 born Portland also could be more no hurrry for it though Kazzie |
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McDitzy | Report | 20 Apr 2005 22:00 |
Might this be them??? John White and Mary Comben married 30 December 1815. Witnesses Joseph WHITE and Sarah STONE. John White died Sep 1849 (but can't seem to access it - will see what I can find) Mary died Nov 1871. John was a shoemaker. Lived at Queen's Row, Chesil Children William Bernard White, baptised 28 October 1821 John Charles White, baptised 29 January 1826. Buried November 1838 Joseph Richard Hellyer White, baptised 10 February 1828. Buried 9 April 1846 aged 18 years Elizabeth White, baptised 10/16 January 1831. Buried 11 May 1839 aged 8 years Mary White, baptised 9 August 1835. Elizabeth White, born 1839 (no baptism record) 1841 census Folio 3 Page 1 Place Houses Names M F Profession Bn Queens Row I John WHITE 40 Master Shoemaker Y Mary WHITE 40 Y ' Joseph WHITE 10 Y ' Mary WHITE 5 Y ' Elizabeth WHITE 2 Y ' One MI - In/memory of/JOHN WHITE/(?) Sept (?) 1849/aged 49 years Also MARY wife of the above/(?) Nov 6 1871/aged 72 years (?)/JOHN C Nov? 7 1838/aged 13 years ELIZABETH (?) 7 1839/aged 9 years JOSEPH R H April 9 1845?/aged 15? years |
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Kazzie | Report | 20 Apr 2005 22:20 |
Thanks Chloe thats brill I often wondered what happened to the Helyer guy as on 1861 Abbotsbury census hes down as Hollier Brodby then disapears so he was a White not a Brodby,can continue search for him now plus shows right ones thanks again Kazzie |
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Kazzie | Report | 20 Apr 2005 22:22 |
Maybe not just seen he was dead by then maybe the Joseph Richard Hollyer Brodby was named after him,this is where gets confusing Kazzie |
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Kazzie | Report | 20 Apr 2005 22:25 |
The marriage isnt theres have that as married at Abbotsbury but on their marriage said John White of Portland and knew they went Portland to live Kazzie |
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Chris | Report | 20 Apr 2005 23:23 |
I would be very grateful for any entries for GALPIN if this is not too much to ask. Very many thanks, Chris |
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McDitzy | Report | 21 Apr 2005 07:39 |
Would you like more info on John White's family?? Message me your email and I'll send you what I can find, Kazzie. What was Mary's surname, out of interest? |
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McDitzy | Report | 21 Apr 2005 07:41 |
1841 Maidenwell I William GALPIN 40 Butcher Y Mary GALPIN 40 Y Sarah GALPIN 20 Y Lucy GALPIN 12 Y James GALPIN 9 Y William GALPIN 7 Y Emma GALPIN 5 Y Mary GALPIN 3 Y Anna GALPIN 1 Y Marriages/Marriage witnesses 1826 27 Jly banns 2, 9 & 16/7 Thomas SPENCER (bach) & Ann GALPIN (Bradford Peveril, DORSET) 1808 7 May Banns 8, 15 & 22/5 by C BRUCH William POPPLE? (bach) & Esther GALPIN (spin - Wyke Regis) 1826 8 Oct banns 17 & 24/9, 1/10 John ABBOTT (wid, Weymouth) & Jane NEWTON (spin); George PORT (curate); John ABBOTT, Jane (X) NEWTON; wit. William GALPIN, Ann GALPIN Baptisms 1811 15 Dec Charlotta Ann do William & Ann GALPIN (by C E NORTH) Wills Last Will & Testament of me, Edward Comben 130 Fortuneswell Portland made 6th April 1909. I appoint my sister Mary Barnes of Shaftesbury & Mr. Charles Galpin of Portland to be my Executors I give and bequeath unto my 3 sons Edward Comben Walter Comben & William John Comben their heirs or assigns all my Real and Personal Estate but the said Estate shall remain intact until after the decease of my daughter Susan Comben and also out of the proceeds £40 to be paid to Susan for her maintenance then Estate to be sold and divided equally amongst 3 sons. Susan Comben to have piano, stove and music. W.J. Comben to take charge of this. On her death articles to be sold. Witness Ebenezer Mitchell, 31 Mallams Elizabeth Comben (sister) 130 Fortuneswell MI's (St George's) In/affectionate remembrance of JOHN GALPIN/born February 24 1819/died March 31 1866 Also of/WALTER GALPIN born March 20 1823/died August 12 1861 sons of WILLIAM HILL TUCKET/and MARY GALPIN Also of JANE/beloved daughter of the above and widow of the late/JOHN HODDINOTT of East Cranmore Somerset who died December 6 1910/aged 83 years In/memory of/JOHN GALPIN who died May 11th 1880/aged 59 years/His end was peace JOHN BARRY GALPIN/died 1st April 1937 An angel returned to Heaven GALPIN; John 2h 3Apr1937 Grave reg C/14/24 In/loving memory/of/MARY GALPIN wife of WILLIAM HILL TUCKET/GALPIN who departed this life/January 18 1880/aged 80 years/(?) Also of SARAH GALPIN/eldest daughter of the above who departed this life Feb 2 1900/aged 82 years/(?) Also of LUCY GALPIN who departed this life Jan 30 1910/aged 80 years/at rest Any of this helpful?? |
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Kazzie | Report | 21 Apr 2005 16:51 |
Could you please look for anything on Elizabeth and William Stone (she was White)I know they married 1868 and had a son William 1869 on 1871 census says she is a widow anything you can find would be great Kazzie |
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McDitzy | Report | 21 Apr 2005 17:25 |
Nothing on the reconstructed families (goes up to 1844), or marriages in Portland. How old was he when he married Elizabeth? I can't even find the baptism of William Stone Jnr. The parish church baptism records seem to only go up to 1841, I'm afraid. Sorry I didn't realise..... most of my stuff starts at 1801. Is the White family I found the right one?? There are a few generations back on this CD too, if you want that. What was William's father's name? Might be able to see if there's more info. |
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Chris | Report | 21 Apr 2005 19:01 |
Chloe Thank you SO MUCH for all the brilliant GALPIN information - that's a very great help - lots of confirmation of relationships etc. Chris |
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Kazzie | Report | 21 Apr 2005 19:26 |
All the info exept White marriage was right as they married Abbotsbury have no idea on William Stones dad only found them by chance when found the white mum living with daughter and family and then found the marriage anything on the Whites would be great trying to find Johns parents siblings ect but with so many Whites on Portland isnt easy,thanks again Kaz |
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McDitzy | Report | 21 Apr 2005 20:19 |
No problem Chris. Glad I could help. Kazzie - weird that you say they were married in Abbotsbury... the marriage is in the Portland register! When did they marry in Abbotsbury? John White's family (this is what the CD has put together) 1799 21 Nov Bernard WHITE (cordwainer) & Sarah HELLYAR (banns); Marr in church by S PAYNE (rector); Bernard WHITE, Sarah (X) HELLYER; wit. Amos WHITE, James TREVIS 1841 census Chesil I Bernard WHITE 65 Shoemaker Y WHI-057 Chesil William WHITE 20 Shoemaker Y ' Children of Bernard White & Sarah Hellyar/Hellier 1800 March (?) [Bernet - deleted] John so Bernet & Sarah WHITE . Married Mary Comben. Died 1849. 1802 January 17 Joseph so Bernard & Sarah WHITE. Buried 1803 December 15 Joseph so Bernard & Sarah WHITE 1804 July 22 Ann Hellyer do Bernard & Sarah WHITE 1806 17 Aug Margery do Bernard & Sarah WHITE. Marriage - 1828 25 Oct banns 28/9, 5 & 12/10 Henry STONE (bach) & Margery Hellyer WHITE (spin); Geo PORT (curate); both signed; wit. Barnard WHITE, Henry PITT . MI for her and family - In loving memory of HENRY STONE/who died Dec 30th 1891/aged 87 years Also of/MARGERY HELLYER/wife of the above who died Feb 18th 1886/aged 80 years Also 3 children of the above/who died as follows EDWARD July 15th 1832/aged 3 years ANN March 31st 1845/aged 9 months ANN REBECCA Oct 8th 1858/aged 8 years Not gone from memory not gone from love But gone to their Fathers home above 1809 5 Mch Joseph so Bernard & Sarah WHITE. Buried 26 May 1830 Joseph WHITE; aged 21; so Barnett & Sarah WHITE; Chesil; so H Harrison off min 16 May 1819 William Richard Hellyer so Bernard & Sarah WHITE; Chiswell; shoemaker; J MANNING AM curate . MI - In/affectionate remembrance of WILLIAM R H WHITE who died February 24 1873/aged 54 years Also/WILLIAM J J H WHITE/son of the above who died October 23 1858/aged 4 months/(?)/(?) Also of MARY GIBBS/widow of the above who died August 6 1881/aged 60 years Sarah Hellier's family 1776 19 Feb Joseph HELLIAR (bach) & Susanna WAY (spin) (banns 4, 11, 18/2 by R DAUBERRY); Marr in church by Richd DAUBERRY (Curate); Joseph HELLIAR, Susanna (X) WAY; wit. Wm WAY, Wm WAY . Their children - i) 1777 19 jan Sarah do Joseph & Susanna HELLYAR (married Bernard White). Buried - 8 May 1837 Sarah WHITE; aged 60; wo Barnard WHITE; Chesil; J Harington Rector ii) 1777 14 Dec William so Joseph & Susannah HELLYAR Buried 1779 Dec 19 William so Joseph & Suesanna HELLYER iii) 1780 3 July Margery do Joseph & Suesana HELLYER . Buried 1805 9 Jly Margery HELLIER iv) 1782 8 Dec William so Joseph & Suesana HELLYER . Died May 1912 (MI to follow) v) 1785 11 Dep Henry so Joseph & Susannah HELLYER . Buried 22 May 1823 Henry HELLYER; aged 37; ; Cheswell; J Manning AM curate vi) 1788 6 Jly Joseph so Joseph & Susanne HELLYER vii) John born 1791. Buried 1799 10 March John so Joseph & Susanna HELLYER viii) 1793 7 Nov Ann do Joseph & Susanna HELLYER. Buried 1799 20 Oct Ann do Joseph & Susanna HELLYER ix) 1796 25 Dec Richard so Joseph & Susanna HELLYER . Buried 25 Jan 1818 Richard HELLYER; aged 21; ; Cheswell; J Mayne MI of this family. My guess is why William's burial record is not there perhaps because he committed suicide and therefore was not allowed a Christian burial??? Tir'd of the tempest here below Worn out with pain and toil Death lays the gallant seaman low Beneath his native soil To which his body we resign Which long his mind depress'd In hope his soul through love Divine Has gained the port of rest Sacred to the/memory/of SUSANNA wife of JOSEPH HELLYER who died the 23rd of April 1818 aged 63 years Also JOSEPH HELLYER her husband who died the 31st of Octr 1822 aged 73 years ((15 Lines Illegible)) Their children WILLIAM HELLYER their son who was drowned May the 7th 1812 aged 29 years Also RICHARD HELLYER who died the 19th of Jan 1818 aged 21 years Also HENRY HELLYER who died the 17th of May 1823 aged 37 years ((8 Lines Illegible)) Sacred/to the memory of two sons and two daughters of JOSEPH/and SUSANNA HELLYER viz WILLIAM, JOHN, ANN & MARGERY WILLIAM departed this life the 16/of December 1779 aged 2 years JOHN departed this life the/2 of March 1799 aged 8 years ANN departed this life the 12 of/October 1799 aged 6 years Also MARGERY departed this/life 4 of July 1805 aged 25/years ((4 Lines Illegible)) Joseph Hellier's family i) 1745 23 May Elisabeth do Henry & Ann HILLIER ii) 1747 2 Dec Henery so Henery & Ann HELLYER . Marriage - 1770 12 Jly Henry HELLIAR & Tabitha PEARCE (banns); Marr in church by Richd DAUBERRY (Curate); HENERY HELLYER, Tabitha PEARCE; wit. Thomas STEVENS, William BUTTS . Buried 30 Mch 1821 Henry HELLYER; aged 75; ; Cheswell (Poorhouse); J Manning AM curate. In/memory of TABITHA/the wife of HENERY HELLYER she departed/this life Sep 8 1771/aged 27 years Also to the memory of the above/HENERY HELLYER who died the 27 of March 1821/aged 77 years iii) 1749 21 May Joseph so Henry & Ann HILLIER . Married Susanna Way (see above). Buried 4 Nov 1822 Joseph HELLYER; aged 73; ; Cheswell; J Manning AM curate iv) 1755 9 Nov Isack of Henry & Ann HELLIER . Buried 14 Jly 1821 Isaac HELLYER; aged 65; ; Wakeham; J Manning AM curate Susanna Way's family (siblings) i) 1745 22 Nov Margery do Willm & Susannah WAY. Married 1768 7 Nov William ATTWOOLL & Margery WAY (banns); Marr in church by Richd DAUBERRY; William ATTWOOLL, Margery WAY; wit. William WAY, Robert PEARCE . Buried 1776 30 Oct Margery wo William ATTWOOLL ii) 1747 6 Aug Mary do Wm & Susannah WAY . Married 1774 6 May Edward ATTWOOL & Mary WAY (banns); Marr in church by Richd DAUBERRY; Edward ATTWOOLL, Mary WAY; wit. Wm WAY, Wm ATTWOOLL Buried 1786 23 May, Mary wo Edward ATTWOOLL iii) 1749 9 Apr John so Wm & Susannah WAY. Buried 1753 27 Dec John so Wm & Susannah WAY iv) 1753 10 Jne Alexander of Wm & Susannah WAY . Married 1776 5 Jan Alexander WAY (bach) & Mary WINTER (spin) (banns 18, 25/12, 1/1 by R DAUBERRY); Marr in church by Richd DAUBERRY (Curate); Alexander WAY, Mary (X) WINTER; wit. Edward ATTWOOLL, William WINTER . Buried 4 Mch 1825 Alexander WAY; aged 71; ; Poorhouse; J Manning AM curate v) 1755 16 Aug Susannah of William & Susannah WAY . Married Joseph Hellier. Buried 26 Apr 1818 Susannah HELLYER; aged 62; ; Cheswell or Chesil; J Manning curate William Way's family 1717 6 Dec John WAY & Margery STONE (by Banns) . (parents) i) 1719 9 Sep Edith do John & Margery WAY ii) 1722 30 Nov William so John & Margery WAY. Married Susannah ?? Margery Stone's family 1694 21 Jly Benjamin STONE & Agnes NOWELL i) 1695 13 Apr Margery do Benjamin & Agnes STONE . Buried 1695 16 May Margery STONE ii) 1696 12 Apr Margery do Benjamin & Agnes STONE . Married William Way. iii) 1698 4 Sep Eleanor do Benjamin & Agnes STONE . Married 1718/19 16 Jan Edward GLOVER & Elinor STONE (by Banns) . Buried 1738 17 Apr Eleanor GLOVER iv) 1701 29 Mch Benjamin so Benjamin & Agnes STONE . Married . Married Edith STONE. - NO DETAIL,. Will - Will proved at Blandford in 1757 Will of Benjamin STONE of Wyke Regis, quarryman wife, Edith STONE to have the dwelling house, barns, stables, outhouses and some lands elsewhere in Portland and Causeway, Radipole witness, Thomas ALLEN Buried 1757 14 Apr Ben STONE v) 1703/04 6 Jan Alce do Benjamin & Agnes STONE . Married 1726 24 Dec John WHITE & Alice STONE (by Banns) . vi) 1705 26 Dec Agnes do Benjamin & Agnes STONE . vii) 1707/08 18 Jan Ann do Benjamin & Agnes STONE . Died ?? viii) 1710 1 |
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Kazzie | Report | 21 Apr 2005 22:14 |
Wow Chloe that is brilliant never thought would find the Whites it was John White and Mary Claxton that married Abbotsbury Bernard and this Hellier were obviously his parents as where the Hellier come into the Joseph Richard Hellier White comes into it gonna sit here and work it all now many thanks Kaz |
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Kazzie | Report | 21 Apr 2005 22:37 |
John WHITE of Portland & Mary CLAXTON married 09-Jun 1821 here is the marriage in Abbotsbury everything fits into place exept the name Mary Comben KAZ |
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McDitzy | Report | 21 Apr 2005 22:41 |
Kazzie - remember that the reconstructed families might well be wrong, it is what KV Saunders thought went together. Maybe this John White and Mary Comben that he mentioned married moved away but he assumed that they stayed. Chloe |
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Kazzie | Report | 24 Apr 2005 20:27 |
Just to say Chloe after telling another relative on the Claxton side about your find said she also had white conections and after checking a gedcom file she was sent did show it was Mary Claxton marrying a John White not Mary Comben so anything else you can find on these would be great,did you manage to find your Tobys? Kazzie |