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Dear Kate, yes would love to see the info you have re Cason family. My Cason is Mary Ann Cason (called Maria by friends and family) born 1869, her father's name was Ambrose born 1838. Hope this helps, look forward to your info. Amanda

Hi Kate Thanks for all your help with this. It just seems that they just vanished for a few years and then popped back into life again. I know that Edwin and Sarah were married in Middlesex and died in Middlesex. On the 1881 it shows that they have a daughter Hannah Wilmshurst born about 1853. However before 1881 and after 1881 she seems to have vanished. I can only think that maybe their names have been transcribed wrong. Thanks once again Sarah

For Rose 1861 Census Source information: RG9/764 Registration district: Staines Sub-registration district: Staines ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 92 Page: 26 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 140 GSU Number: 542697 Mary Ann Eagleton abt 1818 Harlington, Middlesex, England Lodger Harmondsworth Middlesex Thomas Spirling abt 1824 Bedfont, Middlesex, England Head Harmondsworth Middlesex Bennoheny E Spurling abt 1855 Harlington, Middlesex, England Son Harmondsworth Middlesex Think Mary Ann might be a bit more that a lodger ;) 1871 Census Source information: RG10/1305 Registration district: Staines Sub-registration district: Staines ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 106 Page: 30 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 160 GSU Number: 838777 Jane Bannister abt 1833 Southampton Wife Harmondsworth Middlesex Joseph Bannister abt 1839 Bedfent, Middlesex, England Brother-in-law Harmondsworth Middlesex Benjamin Spurling abt 1854 Harlington, Middlesex, England Son Harmondsworth Middlesex Mary Spurling abt 1820 Harlington, Middlesex, England Head Harmondsworth Middlesex 1881 Source information: RG11/1328 Registration district: Staines Sub-registration district: Staines ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 126 Page: 7 Benjmin Spurling abt 1855 Harlington, Middlesex, England Head Harmondsworth, Middlesex, England Bridget Spurling abt 1862 Cork, Ireland Wife Harmondsworth, Middlesex, England 1891 Source information: RG12/1016 Registration district: Staines Sub registration district: Staines ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 117 Page: 14 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 6096126 Spurling, Ben abt 1855 Harlington, Middlesex, England Head Harmondsworth Middlesex Spurling, Bridget abt 1862 Ireland Wife Harmondsworth Middlesex Spurling, Bridget abt 1886 Harmondsworth, Middlesex, England Daughter Harmondsworth Middlesex Spurling, Mary abt 1882 Harmondsworth, Middlesex, England Daughter Harmondsworth Middlesex Spurling, Thomas abt 1884 Harmondsworth, Middlesex, England Son Harmondsworth Middlesex 1901 Source information: RG13/1174 Registration district: Staines Sub-registration district: Staines ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 131 Page: 25 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 170 Benjaman Sperling abt 1855 Harlington, Middlesex, England Head Harmondsworth Middlesex Bridget Sperling abt 1865 Cork, Ireland Wife Harmondsworth Middlesex Bridget Sperling abt 1887 Harmondsworth, Middlesex, England Daughter Harmondsworth Middlesex Mary Sperling abt 1882 Heathrow, Middlesex, England Daughter Harmondsworth Middlesex Thomas Sperling abt 1882 Heathrow, Middlesex, England Son Harmondsworth Middlesex Winefred Sperling abt 1892 Harmondsworth, Middlesex, England Daughter Harmondsworth Middlesex Kate :)

Hi Sarah Started by looking for Edwin in the 1861. The only Edwin Wilmhurst from Sussex was visiting the Hall family in Mansfield, Notts (funnily enough not a million miles from me) It lists him as a 28 year old widower, born Chichester, Sussex. Have got above Edwin in 1871 also, living in Retford, Notts. Married with wife, Annie and a son Thomas born 1870, also born Retford. So probably not the one you want. Next I looked for Thomas in the 1861. There is only one Thomas Wilmhurst in the 1861Census. He was born in Westminster, Middx but the birth year is 1841! He is lodging with the Yealfa (Ancestry transcription) family. His occupation is Boot Closer so I don’t think they got the age wrong. Have checked every angle I can think of but just can’t find them. Wonder if they went under another name. I have a rellie who regularly changed his name from Haysman to Hamilton and back again! Sorry not to bring better news, might be worth putting out a general request and seeing if someone else can take a fresh look at it. Sometimes when you’ve been searching a while you can’t see the wood for the trees. If you do want the info for any of the above just let me know. Good luck Kate J

Carol This is the one and only Elijah Evans in Yorkshire in the 1901 Census. Hope it’s the right one. If so message me your email addie and I’ll send you the piccie. Kate :) Source information: RG13/4277 Registration district: Wakefield Sub-registration district: Sandal ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Folio: 117 Page: 17 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 87 Ann Evans abt 1891 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Daughter Crofton Yorkshire Elijah Evans abt 1868 Hednesford, Yorkshire, England Head Crofton Yorkshire Emma Evans abt 1899 Cudworth, Yorkshire, England Daughter Crofton Yorkshire John Evans abt 1893 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Son Crofton Yorkshire Mary Evans abt 1867 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Wife Crofton Yorkshire Thomas Evans abt 1896 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Son Crofton Yorkshire

Hi Allan There is a William Bell born 1799 but he is in Egglestone. Can get you the info though if you need it. If not this is the one I thought most likely: 1861 Source information: RG9/3718 Registration district: Teesdale Sub-registration district: Staindrop ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Folio: 6 Page: 8 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 36 GSU Number: 543177 Hannah Bell abt 1849 Staindrop, Durham, England Daughter Raby with Keverstone Durham Isabella Bell abt 1807 St John Lee, Northumberland, England Wife Raby with Keverstone Durham Isabella A Bell abt 1849 Staindrop, Durham, England Daughter Raby with Keverstone Durham Jane Bell abt 1842 Staindrop, Durham, England Daughter Raby with Keverstone Durham Margaret Bell abt 1834 St John Lee, Northumberland, England Daughter Raby with Keverstone Durham Mary Bell abt 1836 St John Lee, Northumberland, England Daughter Raby with Keverstone Durham William Bell abt 1802 Chillingham, Northumberland, England Head Raby with Keverstone Durham William T Bell abt 1847 Staindrop, Durham, England Son Raby with Keverstone Durham Mark Herow abt 1836 Whittingham, Northumberland, England Servant Raby with Keverstone Durham Leonard Wilson abt 1839 Wooler, Northumberland, England Servant Raby with Keverstone Durham 1871 Source information: RG10/4943 Registration district: Teesdale Sub-registration district: Staindrop ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Folio: 32 Page: 7 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 34 GSU Number: 848022 Isabella Bell abt 1806 St Johh's Lea, Northumberland, England Wife Raby with Keverstone Durham Isabella A Bell abt 1849 Raby Staindrop, Durham, England Daughter Raby with Keverstone Durham Jane Bell abt 1844 Raby Staindrop, Durham, England Daughter Raby with Keverstone Durham Margaret Bell abt 1834 St Johh's Lea, Northumberland, England Daughter Raby with Keverstone Durham Mary Bell abt 1836 St Johh's Lea, Northumberland, England Daughter Raby with Keverstone Durham William Bell abt 1801 Chillingham, Northumberland, England Head Raby with Keverstone Durham William T Bell abt 1847 Raby Staindrop, Durham, England Son Raby with Keverstone Durham Think this is your Simpson Bell 1871 Source information: RG10/4945 Registration district: Teesdale Sub-registration district: Barnard Castle ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Folio: 91 Page: 3 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 12 GSU Number: 848023 Jane Bell abt 1798 Marwood, Durham, England Wife Stainton and Streatham Durham John Bell abt 1797 Marwood, Durham, England Head Stainton and Streatham Durham Martha J Bell abt 1856 Stainton, Durham, England Granddaughter Stainton and Streatham Durham Simpson Bell abt 1863 Stainton, Durham, England Grandson-in-law Stainton and Streatham Durham Joseph Plews abt 1857 Stainton, Durham, England Servant Stainton and Streatham Durham If you would like any/all of these images please message me your email address and I’ll forward them on to you. Thanks Kate

No probs Mike Sorry we couldn't solve the mystery. Kate :)

Hiya Mike Not sure how close Ripley is to South Wingfield but all I could find is the one below. I believe it is the same man all the way through but the birthplace is always Ripley and his occupation always Boiler Maker. (Plus he's doing my trick of getting younger every 10 years instead of older lol) 1861 - Source information: RG9/2499/F10/P15/DERBY ST PETER John Alton abt 1827 Ripley, Derbyshire, England Lodger St Peter Derbyshire 1871 - Source information: RG10/3576/F42/P31/DERBY ST PETER John Alton abt 1826 Ripley, Derbyshire, England Boarder Litchurch Derbyshire 1881 - Source information: RG11/3414/F62/P21/BELPER RIPLEY James Alton abt 1867 Ripley, Derbyshire, England Son Butterley Hill, Ripley, Derbyshire, England John Alton abt 1823 Ripley, Derbyshire, England Head Butterley Hill, Ripley, Derbyshire, England Mary J. Alton abt 1863 London Millwall, London, Middlesex, England Daughter Butterley Hill, Ripley, Derbyshire, England Sarah Alton abt 1827 Dartford, Kent, England Wife Butterley Hill, Ripley, Derbyshire, England 1891 - Source information: RG12/2745/F55/P18/BELPER RIPLEY Alton, James abt 1867 Ripley, Derbyshire, England Son Ripley Derbyshire Alton, John abt 1821 Ripley, Derbyshire, England Head Ripley Derbyshire Alton, Sarah abt 1827 Crayford, Kent, England Wife Ripley Derbyshire Send me a PM if you do decide you would like the images for these. Kate :)

Hi Kate Could you please look up a Thomas WILMSHURST born abt 1855 Westminster Middlesex. Sometimes with the middle name of John or Henry and he was a school master. I only know his parents names Edwin born abt 1810 Sussex and Sarah born abt 1815 Surrey. However he was one of 15 children and i dont know any of the other siblings. He married Emily Truman in 1885 but it seems that on the 1901 census he had 2 children but i think there could have been more. Please could you check the 1861 , 1871 and 1891 for these . Thank you Sarah

Hi SHEILA Umm – see what you mean – Which brother was she married to? Bit confused though. The 1881 image(s) I am looking at has James as 25 (unmar) and William as 23 (Mar). Amy is 22. Image ref: Source information: RG11/3082/Folio:4/Page:2 and RG11/3082/Folio:5/Page:3 Couldn’t find Amy in 1891 but did find what might be her in 1901 (if you don’t already have it) Source information: RG13/2723 Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: West Bromwich, North East ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Folio: 75 Page: 30 Household schedule number: 167 Albert Daffon abt 1898 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Son West Bromwich Staffordshire Alfred J Daffon abt 1889 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Son West Bromwich Staffordshire Amy Daffon abt 1859 Castle Bromwich, Warwickshire, England Head West Bromwich Staffordshire Charles Daffon abt 1886 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Son West Bromwich Staffordshire Lilian Daffon abt 1882 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Daughter West Bromwich Staffordshire Martha A Daffon abt 1892 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Daughter West Bromwich Staffordshire Thomas Daffon abt 1895 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Son West Bromwich Staffordshire William Daffon abt 1884 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Son West Bromwich Staffordshire George Phillips abt 1876 Cannock, Staffordshire, England Boarder West Bromwich Staffordshire Is there a possibility this might be the marriage GRO? District: Kings Norton County: Staffordshire Warwickshire Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 505 (click to see others on page) DAFFON, William 1881 March Marriages Kings Norton Staffordshire Warwickshire Worcestershire HILL, Amy 1881 March Marriages Kings Norton Staffordshire Warwickshire Worcestershire King's Norton Created 1st July 1837. Abolished 1st January 1925 (incorporated into Birmingham North and Birmingham South districts). Mainly in Worcestershire, but included parts of Staffordshire and Warwickshire. Sub-districts : Balsall Heath; Edgbaston; Harborne; Kings Norton. GRO volumes : XVIII (1837-51); 6c (1852-1924). Balsall Heath (1837-94), Beoley, King's Norton, Northfield, Wythall (1837-1911). Drop me your email address if you would like images. Kate :)

EMMA Hi Emma 1871 Source information: RG10/674 Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Kennington First ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Folio: 49 Page: 18 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 112 GSU Number: 823329 Anne Stone abt 1870 Lambeth, Surrey, England Daughter Lambeth London Bekicah Stone abt 1844 Quarley, Hampshire, England Head Lambeth London Harriet Stone abt 1868 Lambeth, Surrey, England Daughter Lambeth London Silas Stone abt 1844 Quarley, Hampshire, England Head Lambeth London 1891 (Silas now a Widower) Source information: RG12/402 Registration district: Lambeth Sub registration district: Kennington First ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Folio: 52 Page: 59 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 6095512 Stone, Herbert Jas abt 1874 London, England Son Lambeth London Stone, Sibana E abt 1876 London, England Daughter Lambeth London Stone, Silas abt 1842 Oakley, Hampshire, England Head Lambeth London 1901 Sorry can’t find Silas but this may be Herbert. Herbert J Stone abt 1874 So Lambeth, London, England Head Lambeth London Source information: RG13/416 Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Kennington First ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Folio: 128 Page: 22 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 146 Let me know your email addie my PM if you would like any/all images. Cheers Kate

Hi Pamela Sorry this took a while. This family are being a bit elusive. As you can imagine there are quite a lot of Greens out there. I have found a Robert Walter Green in 1891. The transcript gives his age as 49 but I think the image says 40. This puts his age about right to be G Grandfather. Sorry if you already have this. I was looking for a starting point to work back from but failed miserably L Source information: RG12/2404 Registration district: Aston Sub registration district: Deritend ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Folio: 36 Page: 19 GSU Number: 6097514 Green, Eliza Elizabeth abt 1852 Birmingham Wife Aston Warwickshire Green, Elizabeth abt 1874 Birmingham Daughter Aston Warwickshire Green, Ellen abt 1881 Birmingham Daughter Aston Warwickshire Green, Emily abt 1882 Birmingham Daughter Aston Warwickshire Green, James abt 1878 Birmingham Son Aston Warwickshire Green, Joseph abt 1883 Birmingham Son Aston Warwickshire Green, Robert Walter abt 1842 Birmingham Head Aston Warwickshire Green, Samuel abt 1888 Birmingham Son Aston Warwickshire Green, William abt 1888 Birmingham Son Aston Warwickshire -- I’ve also found what may be his widow and children (although there are a few discrepancies – James becomes Jane) in the 1901C. Source information: RG13/2925 Registration district: Solihull Sub-registration district: Solihull ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Folio: 128 Page: 13 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 70 Elizabeth Green abt 1852 Birmingham Head Yardley Warwickshire Ellen Green abt 1880 Birmingham Daughter Yardley Warwickshire Jane Green abt 1878 Birmingham Daughter Yardley Warwickshire Joe Green abt 1883 Birmingham Son Yardley Warwickshire Samuel Green abt 1887 Birmingham Son Yardley Warwickshire Walter Green abt 1874 Birmingham Son Yardley Warwickshire William Green abt 1885 Birmingham Son Yardley Warwickshire 1861C - I have checked all 15 Joseph Greens that came up with the keyword Aston but none were married to a Jane. I also checked for Robert Greens with a Birmingham connection but couldn’t find him. I then looked under the name Green (no forename) with Aston but again nothing. Very Frustrating. Sorry. If you do want the images for the above them PM me with your email and I’ll send it on. Kate :)

CLAIRE The only James Smith who comes up with Boldre is married to Jane. Could this be him do you think? His year of birth is correct: Source information: RG9/664 Registration district: Lymington Sub-registration district: Lymington ED, institution, or vessel: 14b Folio: 80 Page: 13 Household schedule number: 68 GSU Number: 542680 James Harvey abt 1848 Lamington, Dorset, England Boldre Hampshire James Smith abt 1797 Boldre, Dorset, England Head Boldre Hampshire Jane Smith abt 1809 Boldre, Dorset, England Wife Boldre Hampshire Richard Smith abt 1839 Boldre, Dorset, England Son Boldre Hampshire The Cut(t)lers were a bit more elusive. I think this is them in 1861 having been transcribed as Cutter: 1861 Source information: RG9/664 Registration district: Lymington Sub-registration district: Lymington ED, institution, or vessel: 12b Folio: 56 Page: 3 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 20 GSU Number: 542680 Henry Cutter abt 1857 Boldre, Hampshire, England Son Boldre Hampshire Martha Cutter abt 1821 Boldre, Hampshire, England Wife Boldre Hampshire Thomas Cutter abt 1801 Boldre, Hampshire, England Head Boldre Hampshire And again as Cutter in 1871 Source information: RG10/1174 Registration district: Lymington Sub-registration district: Lymington ED, institution, or vessel: 12b Folio: 31 Page: 2 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 8 GSU Number: 827803 Henry Cutter abt 1857 Boldre, Hampshire, England Son Boldre Hampshire Martha Cutter abt 1816 Boldre, Hampshire, England Head Boldre Hampshire Maria Wheeler abt 1844 Boldre, Hampshire, England Boarder Boldre Hampshire I have found a Martha Cutler (c.1816) in the 1881 Census and one born c.1822 in the 1891 Census. The address is the same on each. 1881 Source information: RG11/1190 Registration district: Lymington Sub-registration district: Lymington ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 39 Page: 14 --- 1891 Source information: RG12/899 Registration district: Lymington Sub registration district: Lymington ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Folio: 40 Page: 2 GSU Number: 6096009 If you would like any or all of the images please send me your email address via a PM and I'll send them on. Kate :)

Have to go out a while - my children inform me that there is life away from this computer LOL. Apologies if I haven't got to you yet, I will be checking in again later to catch up. Pamela - Haven't forgotten to you - still digging :) Kate

Rose I also have him in the 1861, 1881, 1891 and 1901 if you don't already have them. Would you like images? 1871 Census Source information: RG10/1305 Registration district: Staines Sub-registration district: Staines ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 106 Page: 30 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 160 GSU Number: 838777 Jane Bannister abt 1833 Southampton Wife Harmondsworth Middlesex Joseph Bannister abt 1839 Bedfent, Middlesex, England Brother-in-law Harmondsworth Middlesex Benjamin Spurling abt 1854 Harlington, Middlesex, England Son Harmondsworth Middlesex Mary Spurling abt 1820 Harlington, Middlesex, England Head Harmondsworth Middlesex Cheers Kate

Hi Kate I am looking for Benoni Everidge SPURLING or Benjamuin living in the Harlington area Middlesex 1871 census maybe. Thanks eva so Rose

Hi Kate, Could you please see if you can find in the 1861 census a James Smith b.c1797, Boldre, Lymington, Hants. with wife Ann. Also a Martha Cut(t)ler b.c 1821, Boldre, Lymington, Hants. with husband Thomas Cut(t)ler. They had a son Henry Cut(t)ler b.c1856. Many thanks for your time & help, Claire

HI KATE, SORRY I GOT A LITTLE CONFUSED IT IS GETTING LATE AND I'M NOT THINKING STRAIGHT WHAT I SHOULD OF WRITTEN WAS JOSEPH AND JANE (NEE HORTON ) GREEN AND THEIR SON WHO IS MY GGRANDFATHER ROBERT WALTER GREEN B C 1851/2 HE WOULD BE ABOUT 9/10 YEARS OLD BY THIS TIME CAN YOU LOOKUP 1861 BIRMINGHAM ( ASTON ) I BELIEVE THE HAD OTHER CHILDREN BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING OF THEM JOSEPH AND JANE WERE MARRIED 1852 IN ASTON JUXTA BIRMINGHAM SO IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THEY HAD ROBERT WALTER OUT OF WEDLOCK LOL I AM SORRY I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO GO ON KIND REGARDS PAMELA

Pamela Did you mean 1884 for your Grandfathers birthdate. That seems an awful long time after the wedding? There are a lot of Greens in that area. Can you give me any other info to narrow down the search ie: do you have any other census details, addresses, occupations... anything might help. Off to bed now but I will check the thread tomorrow. TTFN Kate :)

Naila Struggling as well on this one. I found a John Prat who is a baker/grocer but he is only 29 and it definitely says born in Stretford, Lancs on the image. He is married to Marie. Think I might be grasping at straws on that one. Sorry not to bring better news Kate :)