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Was the William H E Burch you found (with son Ellis) born in 1857 by any chance ???? Cos I haven't got William H E Burch) as married YET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just one of the other Burch's I was gonna sort out !!

I'll understand Tracy, if you want a break babe ... just say. Elaine :-)

I'm off for a cuppa in 10 mins, but apart from that I'm here till 5 lol Might as well have something to keep me occupied :)

Tracy ... I need a break !! Have just seen your extra info on Ellis ..... this is new to me so need to go and have a proper look at the info you have given me ! Back later babe x T H A N K Y O U

Here they are :) Marriages Sep 1887 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- BURCH William Henry E St.Thomas 5b 125 WEBB Agnes Eliza St.Thomas 5b 125 So I guess he's William Henry Ellis Burch. What a mouthful lol I'm amazed that I haven't found any mis-transcriptions yet lol

Now I'm really confused !!!! (What's new !!) Tracy, could you find me Ellis Burch b 1857 please on the 1861 census .... I haven't the faintest idea where he fits in ! I have a William H E Burch who was born in 1857 - so he can't be Ellis's Dad can he !! Elaine :-) HOLD ON ... Now I understand !! Yep, he does fit as Ellis b 1857 actually being William Henry Ellis Burch b 1857 ........OK .... so now I have his family ! PHEWWWWWW ! Put some Brandy in that cuppa Tracy !!!!!!!!!

Don't suppose you could look for: Elizabeth G Fley b 1843/4 Lympstone on the 1861 could ya ? ... hoping she MAY be with her parents !! or even partial 1851 is really good for Devonshire ! I know ... now I'm getting rather cheeky aren't I ;-) NOT sure if this is her ? ................ IGI ELIZABETH GODFREY FLEY Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 28 AUG 1842 Lympstone, Devon, England Parents: Father: JAMES FLEY Family Mother: JANE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. ----------------------------------------------------------- Now I'm just adding notes to the thread, so I can find them easily, just in case: ELIZABETH GODFREY FLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 28 AUG 1842 Lympstone, Devon, England RICHARD FLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 13 SEP 1844 Lympstone, Devon, England MARGERY ANN FLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 04 SEP 1846 Lympstone, Devon, England MARTHA ANN FLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 24 MAY 1850 Lympstone, Devon, England MARY ANN MITCHELL FLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 20 AUG 1852 Lympstone, Devon, England MARY BLANCH FLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 24 DEC 1854 Lympstone, Devon, England KATE HELEN FLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 30 NOV 1859 Lympstone, Devon, England WM JAMES GODFREY FLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 29 AUG 1863 Lympstone, Devon, England All have parents James & Jane. ----------------------------------------------------------------

Got her... Jane Fley abt 1808 Otterton, Devon, England Head Lympstone Devon Jane Fley abt 1835 Lympston, Devon, England Daughter Lympstone Devon Elizabeth Fley abt 1843 Lympston, Devon, England Daughter Lympstone Devon Margery Fley abt 1847 Lympston, Devon, England Daughter Lympstone Devon Martha Fley abt 1850 Lympston, Devon, England Daughter Lympstone Devon Blanche Fley abt 1854 Lympston, Devon, England Daughter Lympstone Devon Mermearn Skinner abt 1844 Ottery, Devon, England Visitor Lympstone Devon William Skinner abt 1849 Ottery, Devon, England Visitor Lympstone Devon I can look in 1841 for them if you don't have that. On same page is James Fley with wife Jane and daughter Kate. James Fley abt 1832 Ottery, Devon, England Head Lympstone Devon Jane Fley abt 1832 Atherly, Devon, England Wife Lympstone Devon Kate Fley abt 1860 Lympston, Devon, England Daughter Lympstone Devon

You are such a darling Tracy !! Yes please to 1841 ...... and I think James Ley with Jane are the parents to the list you gave ! ? what d'ya think ? possible ? Double Brandy in that tea I hope !! Elaine :-) Mind you ... Jane b 1808 gives the others as daughters ? Errm .... I'll go back and check IGI !! Cheers Tracy ... once again you have rescued the situation !!LoL ! I think I need to take stock for a short while. There'l' be more later !!! calls for another coffee I think !! Elaine :_0

ok, 1841... James Fley, 30, Mariner, Y Jane '', 30, , '' James '', 9, , '' Jane '', 6, , '' Ann '', 4, , '' Sarah '', 2, , '' Living Lympstone. So, the James in 1861 is their eldest. They do like to confuse things don't they. How can someone marry a person with the same name as their parents? lol

T H A N K Y O U Tracy, ***Your an absolute star *** I really can't thank you enough ! Now to print off the thread and transport the info onto FT !! Elaine :-)

You're quite welcome :) If you need any more help with them, just let me know.

Ohh, I forgot about 1851. Sorry :) Elizabeth Fley Lympston St Tho, Devonshire Lympstone, Devonshire, England Female 9 James Fley Lympston St Tho, Devonshire Lympstone, Devonshire, England Male 42 James Fley Lympston St Tho, Devonshire Lympstone, Devonshire, England Male 19 Jane Fley Lympston St Tho, Devonshire Lympstone, Devonshire, England Female 16 Jane Fley Lympston St Tho, Devonshire Otterton, Devonshire, England Female 43 Margery Fley Lympston St Tho, Devonshire Lympstone, Devonshire, England Female 5 Martha Fley Lympston St Tho, Devonshire Lympstone, Devonshire, England Female 1 Sarah Fley Lympston St Tho, Devonshire Lympstone, Devonshire, England Female 12 Address: House, Lympston Enumeration district: Lympston St Tho County: Devonshire