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Julie Thank you so much for your help with the elusive John Mills - I will take your advice and ask for help on another thread. Trudy

Hello Julie Thank you so much for all the information regarding the Dennison family, much appreciated. Best wishes, Jean

Jean Cole - Dennison <1851> Caroline Dennison abt 1840 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record Frances Ann Dennison abt 1820 Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England Wife Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record William Dennison abt 1813 Wragby, Lincolnshire, England Head Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record John Proctor Dennison abt 1843 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Son Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record Mary Ann Proctor Dennison abt 1848 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record William Proctor Dennison abt 1846 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Son Holbeach William is a gardener. 1861 Eliza Dennison abt 1852 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record Frances Dennison abt 1854 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record Frances A Dennison abt 1819 Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England Wife Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record Henry Dennison abt 1858 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Son Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record John Dennison abt 1843 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Son Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record Margaret Dennison abt 1856 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record William Dennison abt 1812 Wragby, Lincolnshire, England Head Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record William Dennison abt 1846 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Son Holbeach Lincolnshire William again gardener and John ag lab. In 1861 Caroline has gone on to Holbeach Marsh, she's a servant on a farm - Caroline Dennison abt 1840 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Servant Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record Edward Grummitt abt 1835 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Servant Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record James Pearce abt 1843 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Servant Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record Mary Jane Pitts abt 1836 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Wife Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record William Pitts abt 1827 Tansor, Northamptonshire, England Head Holbeach Lincolnshire 1871 Francis Dennison abt 1820 Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England Wife Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record Henry Dennison abt 1858 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Son Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record Margaret Dennison abt 1856 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record Rosa Dennison abt 1865 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Granddaughter Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record William Dennison abt 1809 Wragby, Lincolnshire, England Head Holbeach Lincolnshire William still gardener - don't know what's happened to his age! Def him tho! 1871 and John Proctor Dennison is a lodger in Holbeach, he's unmarried and a labourer. Hope that helps, Julie

Trudy - By the way - for occupation I bet he's going to be a 'drover' taking cattle probably to London. Julie

Trudy - It's no good - I admit defeat :~( Just can't see him. Even the most likely one that I found in Eye he was married and with children with somewhere else in 1901. Not found any with the 'right jobs'. Sorry, maybe someone else can see him. If I were you I would start a new thread asking specifically for help about him. This usually works on here. Good luck. Julie

Hi Julie - yes that is definitely them. Thanks for your continued help.Trudy

Hi Trudy - sorry about this, things have been hectic and not had much time on computer this week. I've kept finding dead ends - each likely one in the earlier documents was wrong in the 1901! <1901> Anne Mills abt 1866 Barford, Warwickshire, England Daughter Leamington Priors Warwickshire View Record John R S Mills abt 1900 Leamington, Warwickshire, England Grandson Leamington Priors Warwickshire View Record Mary Ann Scurr abt 1837 Spennythorn, Yorkshire, England Wife Leamington Priors Warwickshire View Record Robert Scurr abt 1834 Middleton Scres, Yorkshire, England Head Leamington Priors Warwickshire 89 Willes Road, Ecclesiatical parish: Leamington Priors St Mary Town: Leamington County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Well that's a start I suppose - at least I know that he wasn't living with his wife when 1901 taken. Not found a single John Mills yet that's been listed as a dairyman, just a matter of time ....

Hi Julie So sorry not to be clear with my info. My details are a bit sketchy but this is what I have. John Mills born c1869 Warwickshire or Suffolk. I do not have marriage cert but have some info from it - he married Anne Scurr (born 1865 Warwicks) on April 3rd 1899 in Leamington Priors, Warwicks - address 89 Willes Rd. John Jr was listed as dairyman and his father John Snr as a nurseryman. Anne & John had four children, Robert John (born 1900) Muriel Mary Scurr Mills (1902) Ethel Hilda Scurr Mills and Marjorie Scurr Mills (twins born 1904). John Jr seems to have disappeared sometime after the last children were born and we have been unable to trace him. My goal is to try and find him in his early life to get his parents and siblings, that's why I thought of 1871,81,91 census. I realise it is a very common name but would appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks so much..... Regards - Trudy

Trudy - the challenge of working out which one is your man :~) That's why I start with the bit that I assume that you have got. Can you rack your brain and see if you can write down every detail that you know about John. I've found at least 4. Do you have occupations? The nurseryman is John the father yes? Where was he living when they got married? I'll have more time this evening....

Julie - Re John Mills - sorry but this John is not mine - my John was married to Anne Scurr in 1899. I was trying to locate him on the earlier census 1871, 81 and 91 to trace his parents and siblings. Thanks again - Trudy

Trudy re- Mills Here he is in <1901> Ada M Mills abt 1873 Irthlingborough Wife Harborough Magna Warwickshire View Record Clady M Mills abt 1896 Harborough Magna, Warwickshire, England Daughter Harborough Magna Warwickshire View Record John Mills abt 1869 Pailton, Warwickshire, England Head Harborough Magna Warwickshire He is a self employed baker - breadmaker. They live in 4 rooms. Run out of time - will come back on this later. Julie

Margaret Fairbairn - you have him on the 1881, but can't find him on the 71 or 91. Turns up again on 1901: Edward Fairbairn abt 1897 Gateshead, Durham, England Son Gateshead Durham View Record Elizabeth Fairbairn abt 1875 Gateshead, Durham, England Wife Gateshead Durham View Record George Fairbairn abt 1890 Gateshead, Durham, England Son Gateshead Durham View Record Georgina Fairbairn abt 1900 Gateshead, Durham, England Daughter Gateshead Durham View Record Henry T Fairbairn abt 1866 Gateshead, Durham, England Head Gateshead Durham View Record Thomas Fairbairn abt 1891 Gateshead, Durham, England Son Gateshead Durham 47 Devonshire Street Gateshead. Now the daft thing is his children are all born in Gateshead but I just couldn't see him.... Ran a search on Elizabeth in 1891 and didn't come up with anything that fitted either. Hope that helps some :~) Julie

Thank you for all your help. I think I have a complete set now. Happy New Year to you GLoria

The one with the OMLY family is the one I wanted thanks. He was their adopted son. Looks like he had a sister adopted to. If there is anymore info on this family it would be a great help to me. Thanks again. Think I have all the other family details for now. Just need to print them of. Thanks again for all your help GLoria

Gloria could you just clarify for me... Who am I looking for and guestimates of dates. George Shute, married to Eliza Webster parents of Beattie(1899). All living in Lincolnshire? Do you mean the place Holtby or is that just a name? There's a lot of George Shutes and having difficulties. The only 1 that I can see so far in Lincolnshire is this in Cleethorpes - but Eliza is his mother in law rather than wife. Eliza Omly abt 1852 Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England Wife Cleethorpes Lincolnshire View Record William Omly abt 1850 Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England Head Cleethorpes Lincolnshire View Record George Shute abt 1878 Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England Son-in-law Cleethorpes Lincolnshire View Record Jennie Shute abt 1883 Withern, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Cleethorpes Lincolnshire This George is a milk dealer. George Shute Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Relation: Son-in-law Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Cleethorpes Ecclesiatical parish: Cleethorpes St Peter and Clee Holy Trinity and St Mary the Virgin Town: Cleethorpes County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England If you can clarify for me I might be able to help more. Julie

Tracey Kent You still there...? Graydon - Halifax, Arthur working on the railway in 1901, dragman is it? All born in Halifax. <1891> Just Arthur and Emily living together at number 9 Thomas Street Ward?/Walk? Occupation looks something like farm drayman? They occupied only 2 rooms. Civil parish: Skircoat Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls Town: Halifax County/Island: Yorkshire <1881> things get more interesting Record Albert Graydon abt 1866 Yorkshire, England Son Northowram, Yorkshire, England View Record Annie Graydon abt 1868 Yorkshire, England Daughter Northowram, Yorkshire, England View Record Arthur Graydon abt 1864 Yorkshire, England Son Northowram, Yorkshire, England View Record Chrisr. Graydon abt 1836 Yorkshire, England Head Northowram, Yorkshire, England View Record Eliza Graydon abt 1873 Yorkshire, England Daughter Northowram, Yorkshire, England View Record Elizh. Graydon abt 1833 Yorkshire, England Wife Northowram, Yorkshire, England View Record Joe Graydon abt 1871 Yorkshire, England Son Northowram, Yorkshire, England View Record Sam Graydon abt 1875 Yorkshire, England Son Northowram, Yorkshire, England View Record Walter Graydon abt 1862 Yorkshire, England Son Northowram, Yorkshire, England View Record Edward Webster abt 1841 Yorkshire, England Lodger Northowram, Yorkshire, England This is in Northowram - I ran a quick search and bingo - 'NORTHOWRAM, in the parish of Halifax, Morley-division of Agbrigg and Morley, liberty of Wakefield, (Northowram Hall, the seat of J.F. Dyson, Esq.) 2½ miles NE. of Halifax, 6½ from Bradford. Pop. 6,841.' So looks like your man! Chris - head - worsted spinning overlooker. Walter - some sort of strap maker. Arthur cart driver. Albert, Annie and Joe factory workers. The lodger is an unemployed mechanic - you see him again back in 1871: Back we go to <1871> The family are lodginf with Edward Webster and his elderly (71 and 69) parents at Red Beck, Northowram: Record Albert Graydon abt 1866 Northowram, Yorkshire, England Son Northowram Yorkshire View Record Annes Graydon abt 1868 Northowram, Yorkshire, England Daughter Northowram Yorkshire View Record Arthur Graydon abt 1864 Northowram, Yorkshire, England Son Northowram Yorkshire View Record Christopher Graydon abt 1835 Northowram, Yorkshire, England Lodger Northowram Yorkshire View Record Elizabeth Graydon abt 1833 Northowram, Yorkshire, England Wife Northowram Yorkshire View Record Joe Graydon abt 1870 Northowram, Yorkshire, England Son Northowram Yorkshire View Record Walter Graydon abt 1862 Northowram, Yorkshire, England Son Northowram Yorkshire Chris is a worsted spinning overlooker and walter, 9, is a half time worsted spinner. <1861> Christopher Graydon abt 1836 Halifax, Yorkshire, England Head Halifax Yorkshire View Record Elizabeth Graydon abt 1834 Northowram, Yorkshire, England Wife Halifax Yorkshire View Record Hannah Maria Graydon abt 1860 Halifax, Yorkshire, England Daughter Halifax Yorkshire looks like Mount Pleasant number 1, the house seems to have held 2 seperate households. In this census it doesn't tell you if they had less than 4 rooms etc, but I'd guess they had 2 rooms. Chris still doing same job. Here we go back to 1851 - end of line for ancestry till next year.... good one though because you get a glimps at the next generation back.... Record Christopher Graydon abt 1835 Halifax, Yorkshire, England Son Skircoat Yorkshire View Record Hannah Graydon abt 1807 Towerby, Yorkshire, England Wife Skircoat Yorkshire View Record James Graydon abt 1841 Halifax, Yorkshire, England Son Skircoat Yorkshire View Record Mansley Graydon abt 1844 Halifax, Yorkshire, England Son Skircoat Yorkshire View Record Samuel Graydon abt 1804 Halifax, Yorkshire, England Head Skircoat Yorkshire View Record Samuel Graydon abt 1846 Skircoat, Yorkshire, England Son Skircoat Yorkshire View Record Thomas Graydon abt 1838 Halifax, Yorkshire, England Son Skircoat Yorkshire Location looks something like Grannery Hill? Samuel, head, shoe maker. Christopher and Thomas at woolen mill. James an engine boy. Obviously this is going to leave so many loose ends to trace side ways :~) Julie

Dennison. Hi Julie, Would you mind doing another lookup for me please. 1861 & 1871 Trying to find sisters all born Holbeach, Lincolnshire. Mary Ann b. c 1848 Caroline b c 1840 Frances b. c. 1854 Margaret b. c. 1856 Parents William and Frances. Thank you, and a Happy New Year. Jean

Hi Julie Could you please look up a John Mills (born c1869) in Warwickshire on the 1871,81,91. His father was also John and listed as a nurseryman in 1899. Many thanks Trudy

Allan Midcalf - re Howards Okay, so we have Alfred 1849 working as a horsekeeper in 1881 married to Elizabeth 1848 in Durham with their children, which I assume you have already. In 1891 they are in Broom Durham. Alfred's a farm stuard, John's a colliery fitter and William's a railway porter. Been going in circles looking for him in earlier census'. Think that he might be in the army in 71 but I haven't been able to find Elizabeth and possibly John so can't eliminate them being together. He has a popular name and unfortunately he doesn't seem to give Bury St Edmunds as his place of birth (or if he does I just can not see it!) Looking at his skills he might be (1851) Alfred Howard abt 1849 Tuddenham, Cambridgeshire, England Son Tuddenham St Mary Suffolk View Record Hannah Howard abt 1846 Chippenham, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter Tuddenham St Mary Suffolk View Record James Howard abt 1817 Tuddenham, Suffolk, England Head Tuddenham St Mary Suffolk View Record Jane Howard abt 1822 Chippenham, Cambridgeshire, England Wife Tuddenham St Mary Suffolk Results per page as they are farm workers BUT don't take that as given. What you really need to find next is the marriage between Alfred and Elizabeth Actually that leads nicely - think that this might be them, but do have a look with free bmd and see if any of the others fit with what you know - like I say there are lots with the same name. Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1871 Howard Alfred Durham 10a 355 Linsley Elizabeth Durham 10a 355 Now, with the marriage certificate you will get fathers name and you'll be able to confirm fathers names and therefore which Alfred he's going to be. Must go to bed! yawn............... Happy new year Julie

Betty Boo - no, afraid not. Sorry!