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Peter Could you post 1881 census so I can trck them from that Thanks Zoe

Deborah I think he maybe older than you though maybe he fibbed on cert 1901 17 Treverton Street Head is a Printers Machine Minder Albert H Tipper abt 1889 N Kensington, London, England Son Kensington London Ann Tipper abt 1867 Marylebone, London, England Wife Kensington London Anne E Tipper abt 1893 N Kensington, London, England Daughter Kensington London Gertrude D Tipper abt 1888 N Kensington, London, England Daughter Kensington London Joseph R Tipper abt 1860 Lambeth, London, England Head Kensington London Victoria D M Tipper abt 1899 N Kensington, London, England Daughter Kensington London ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1891 Bennett Street Head is a Printers Labourer Tipper, Albert abt 1889 Kensington, London, England Son Christchurch London Tipper, Annie abt 1866 Marylebone, London, England Wife Christchurch London Tipper, Gertrude abt 1888 Kensington, London, England Daughter Christchurch London Tipper, Joseph abt 1860 Lambeth, London, England Head Christchurch London ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hope this helps Zoe

Hi Zoe, 1881 census lists the following: Henry Miller age 38 Occupation Deal Porter, born Sumers Town (incorrectly transcribed on Ancestry who have it as Sumerset Town) Caroline Miller aged 39, born in Surrey Ted Hy. (Henry?) Miller age 16, occupation errand boy born Newington William Miller age 13, scholar, born Newington Rosina Miller, daughter age 6, scholar, born Newington Ellen L Miller, daughter age 4, scholar, born Newington Address: 25, Crampton Street source RG11/0553

can that really be him it says on marriage cert that he was 25 and she was 20 ( he must have been a little monkey to do that. also on marriage cert it says they lived at no 14. did any of them mention his father William ta debbie

Hi Zoe If you have the time can you look on the 1861 or 1871 census for Edward King c1830? Head Packer Joseph King c1855 Liverpool Son carter I know they were in the Walton Liverpool in 1879 im sorry but that is all i have thank you Allen

Peter I have tried a variation of ways and still can't find them very elusive. Sorry have looked but can't see them Zoe

Deborah There doesn't seem to be a number 14 Treverton Street and the images clearly say the ages. What does it say his occupation is on the marriage cert? Have looked through street any other Tippers. Zoe

Allen do you have them on any other census as it is easier to track that way Thankyou Zoe

It says that joseph was a carman and that William was the printer debbie

Deborah I transcribed from the page for those censuses but this man is very elusive before 1891 don't seem to be able to find him maybe he is going to be one that's a bit of a mystery! I couldn't find a Joseph Tipper b1880 +/- 5 whose father was a Printer just one who is a Nail maker in Worcestershire and he was born 1884. . Zoe

Hi Zoe I have Joseph King on the 1881 census marred at 1 Rockwood st West Derby and i have his marrige cet in 1878 and it say his dad was Edward and the address for him and her are the same 92 cornwell st Allen

Hi Zoe Could you please look for a family of Matthews in the 1851 and 1861 Census. The parents were John and Susan (or Sarah) nee Bacon with children Mary b 1842, Abraham b 1844, John b 1848 and William b 1850 all born in Walpole St Peter, Norfolk. Thanks so much Trudy

Zoe, Many thanks for looking anyway. I appreciate your efforts. Peter

Allen Don't know if this is yours but only one could find with father Edward check to see if he is on 1881 1861 Head is a Glass & China dealer Edward King abt 1824 Dublin, Ireland Head Liverpool Lancashire Edward King abt 1846 Dublin, Ireland Son Liverpool Lancashire Jane King abt 1822 ?Gelind?, Ireland Wife Liverpool Lancashire Joseph King abt 1855 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire Mary King abt 1852 Liverpool Lancs Daughter Liverpool Lancashire Thomas King abt 1844 Dublin, Ireland Son Liverpool Lancashire ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is the same person in 1871 Joseph is a cashier and owner of a shop Joseph S King abt 1855 Lpool, Lancashire, England Brother Liscard Cheshire Thomas B King abt 1849 Lpool, Lancashire, England Lodger Liscard Cheshire David A S Nesbitt abt 1847 Ireland Lodger Liscard Cheshire Zoe

Hi Zoe Thank you so much it is very much appreciated Allen

Trudy 1851 Kirkfield Head is Susan she is married and a shoemakers wife(John not there) Abraham Mathews abt 1844 Walpole, Norfolk, England Son Walpole St Andrew Norfolk John Mathews abt 1848 Walpole, Norfolk, England Son Walpole St Andrew Norfolk Mary D Mathews abt 1842 Walpole, Norfolk, England Daughter Walpole St Andrew Norfolk Susan Mathews abt 1818 Walpole, Norfolk, England Head St Andrew Norfolk William Mathews abt 1850 Walpole, Norfolk, England Son Walpole St Andrew Norfolk 1861 Can't find the family only Abraham Name: Abraham Matthews Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Relation: Apprentice Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Walpole, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Knottingley Ecclesiatical parish: South East Christchurch Town: Knottingley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Source information: RG9/3433 Registration district: Pontefract Sub-registration district: Knottingley ED, institution, or vessel: 4f Folio: 79 Page: 15 Household schedule number: 106 GSU Number: 543131

Hi Zoe I dont think the Kings on 1871 Liscard Cheshire one is mine but do you have an address for the 1861 Liverpool thank you Allen

Allen Here is all the Souce info can't make out address you will have to look at image and see what you think Name: Edward King Age: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1824 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Dublin, Ireland Civil parish: Liverpool Ecclesiatical parish: St Luke Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Source information: RG9/2688 Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant ED, institution, or vessel: 39f Folio: 43 Page: 12 Household schedule number: 66 GSU Number: 543013 Zoe

A BIG THANK YOU Allen

Hi Zoe Could you please look up - 1901John Andrew Perry born 1891 Address 2 Butler Square, Abram, Wigan. Fater James Perry , mother Sarah Perry, siblings James 1884, Joseph 1893, Mary 1898 Thanks June