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Hello Just wanted to thank everyone yesterday especially DD, LL and Pete who found the parents of richard partington, I never really got chance to thank everyone for all your brilliant work. I really am very greatful, you all do an amazing job and thank you ALL from the bottom of my heart. BIG THANK YOU GUYS!!!!! Lise xx

Lise As DD as said there is only Ancestry 1851 - 1901 inclusive!

There is ONLY ONE site that has all 1851 - 1901 census on it (online) and that's ANCESTRY.

LL Yes ive just had another look at your answer to my thread on j statham and s armstrong, with all this help I feel like im actually getting somewhere now...The gaps and uncertanties are now fitting into place. Which in your opinion is the most valuable site to access 1851 - 1901 census information. Theres that many I just dont know which way to turn.. Lise

With reference to their whereabouts in 1881 is anyone's guess ! They could have been on the 'move', across the border .... or simply just not registered. They MAY be mistranscribed on the census ... but I have checked most of the possibilities and have also looked for just the first names etc .... Might check the 1881 on IGI ..!! Elaine ;-)

Lise Try above site, it has lots of info and links regarding Manchester news and areas, some upto present date! Totally of topic..... I managed to find your John Statham and Susan Armstrong marriage, ive added it to your 'statham' thread, dont know if you saw it or not?? Lib

Hi LL Just wondered on another matter, have you any ideas or point me in the right direction where to start looking for a site that allows you to view newspaper articles written abt 1970 ish, the paper was a local one called the journal I think in the salford area on a scottish relative who married a scottish lady, but when he died in 1971 it became apparent though newspaper articles that he already had another wife and family living in scotland and we want to find the circumstances surrounding these events but are unsure where to start with a search. Any ideas ?? Lise

Elaine Why do you think she dissapeared off the 1881 census ?? They all died so young in them days, what a shame... Lise

Deaths Jun 1895 Partington Maria 53 Manchester 8d 134 makes her born c1842 ???????????????

Elaine & Lady Liberty Thanks for that !! Lise

Lise Try this site for family history in Manchester and surrounding areas, some great photo's too... www.manchester.gov.uk/libraries/arls/famhist.htm Lib

Hi again Lise, Yes, £70 just about covers it. Access to all census for England, Wales, etc. Not Scotland, Ireland or USA though. 1851 - 1901. 1841 we are all holding our breath for - hopefully Easter ?? Manchester birth is most likely ! bearing in mind what LL has said (Thanks LL) Elaine ;-)

Lise/DD Miles Platting is a small area very close to Beswick and Manchester centre, it is still named that today... Its neighbouring town is a place called Collyhurst also still named that too. Registration district is Manchester! My fathers G - grand parents were born there! Lib

Elaine, F C Michigan and pete in Glos, WOW - what a team. It would have taken me literally months to find what youve done in a matter of hours, Im amazed, and extremely greatful. I really cant thank you enough, a BIG thank you. On Ancestory do you need to have a yearly subscription to access the infomation on the census records, does this subscription allow you to have complete access for £70 ?? Lise

Maybe ??? Births Mar 1874 Partington Richard Chorlton 8c 796 There is a birth in 1873 for Manchester Births Sep 1873 PARTINGTON Richard Manchester 8d 164 I REALLY wouldn't like to say :-( Thing is, IF he was born before June 1873, then he WOULD have said he was 34 at marriage in June 1907. Therefore, any birth between June 73 - March 74 (inc) could be him. Elaine ;-)

1861: William is Journeyman Cotton Spinner 1871: Cotton Spinner Wonder if the death I found earlier is for this same William ? Can't find Maria, William or Richard on 1881 1891: Maria is wid, Richard is Painter 1901 Richard is boarder (House Painter) with William Prince (House Painter) & wife Alice. 1907 William & Alice Prince are witnesses at Richards wedding. ******** 1901 is definately correct Richard 1891 I would say is 95% correct Richard 1871 & 1861 I would say 95% correct Maria with hubby William ! who's name Richard gives as his father on marriage cert. If your happy Lise, then I would send for a 1874 birth cert, staing Father William and Mother Maria as checking reference .... but your NOT looking for a BOLTON birth now, more likely Manchester one.

FC... will check shortly !! Lise: 1901 census ... Yes, Richard is boarding with the Prince family .... so Pete found the correct one earlier. I'll go and check William's occupation on the census's !

William & Alice Prince .... thats who the 1901 Richard is boardering with isn't it ?? I'll go and check. I have added some further details - re 1871 & 1891 census.

Dancer is William with wife Maria a Weaver?? That would clinch it! Hope she comes back to read what else you've added before ordering certs. P.S. Nice going by the way!! Think your William and Maria look promising.

Hi Elaine, I didnt realise how difficult this was going to be, In answer to your earlier question the witnesses at the wedding of richard and susan were , William and Alice prince. Lise