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Ellen in 1851: Ilchester Somerset Joseph Fudge abt 1815 Ilchester, Somerset, England Head (Bricklayer - Journeyman) Lucy Fudge abt 1815 Ilchester, Somerset, England Wife Marina Fudge abt 1840 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter Emma Fudge abt 1842 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter Ellen Fudge abt 1844 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter Emily Ann Fudge abt 1846 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter Harry Fudge abt 1848 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter Julia Fudge abt 1850 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter IMAGE SAYS Hudge I think !! I'll check 1841 Somerset !

which surname do you think it is Judge or Fudge

1841: Joseph Fudge 25 MASON Lucy 25 Marina 1 Ilchester, Somerset Next door are these : John Fudge 45 Ag Lab Cornelia 55 All born Somerset. Here is a list of all the 'Fudge's in Somerset - Ilchester: FUDGE ALFRED M 5 SOMERSET WEST STREET ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE ANN F 60 SOMERSET ILCHESTER MEAD SOCK DENNIS ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE ANNE F 40 SOMERSET CLEVELAND ROW ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE ANNE F 15 SOMERSET CLEVELAND ROW ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE ANNE F 50 OUT OF COUNTY KING'S HAMS ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE CORNELIA F 55 SOMERSET ILCHESTER MEAD SOCK DENNIS ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE ELIZABETH F 20 SOMERSET WEST STREET ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE ELIZABETH F 3 SOMERSET CLEVELAND ROW ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE ELIZABETH F 60 SOMERSET WEST STREET ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE ELLEN F 6 months SOMERSET CLEVELAND ROW ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE FRANCES F 10 SOMERSET WEST STREET ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE GEORGE M 7 SOMERSET WEST STREET ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE GEORGE M 8 SOMERSET CLEVELAND ROW ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE GEORGE M 60 SOMERSET ILCHESTER MEAD SOCK DENNIS ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE GRACE F 45 SOMERSET WEST STREET ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE HENRY M 50 SOMERSET ALMS HOUSE LANE ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE HENRY M 20 SOMERSET ALMS HOUSE LANE ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE JEMIMA F 20 SOMERSET CLEVELAND ROW ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE JOHN M 81 SOMERSET ALMS HOUSE ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE JOHN M 45 SOMERSET ILCHESTER MEAD SOCK DENNIS ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE JOSEPH M 25 SOMERSET ILCHESTER MEAD SOCK DENNIS ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE LOUISA F 15 SOMERSET WEST STREET ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE LUCY F 25 SOMERSET ILCHESTER MEAD SOCK DENNIS ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE MARIA F 25 SOMERSET WEST STREET ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE MARY F 35 SOMERSET WEST STREET ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE MERINA F 1 SOMERSET ILCHESTER MEAD SOCK DENNIS ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE RICHARD M 35 SOMERSET WEST STREET ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE SARAH F 72 SOMERSET ALMS HOUSE ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE THOMAS M 13 SOMERSET WEST STREET ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET FUDGE WILLIAM M 50 SOMERSET WEST STREET ILCHESTER ILCHESTER SOMERSET They MAY come in handy at a later date.

many thanks for all your help, your a star, its much appreciated regards Karen

OH BOY ! Didn't realise it had gone from Nudge to Judge to Fudge/Hudge ! The 1861 image definately says NUDGE. I'll go back and check the images for 51 & 41

Doesn't the 1861 image show that Ellen is married? Do you think that is a mistake or that they haven't listed her married name? Heather

Oh POOOOOO The 1851 and 1841 images are Fudge .... but the 1861 is definately Nudge. Now I'm lost and in a muddle ! Sorry :-((((((

don't know if this helps but I reckon all the fudges must have been some sort of relatives.Ilchester is only a tiny town 5 miles from Yeovil. I used to live there, can't see there being that many unrelated and if my memory serves me right there is only one church there to, so if they got married in Ilchester it would have to be there

Oh 'eck Heather !!!Yes, the 1861 image does say she is married .... Just going for a walk up the garden path !! Clear the cobwebs ! Elaine ;-)

no worries, thanks for your help Elaine. regards Karen

thanks linda, didnt know it was that small regards Karen

Sorry, Had time to clear my thoughts ! Decided to recheck 1861 again .... and this is what came up: Ellen Fudge abt 1842 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter Ilchester Somerset (This is definately Fudge on the image Ellen Judge abt 1844 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter Ilchester Somerset (THIS one is actually NUDGE on the image) Problem is, I can only find the Ellen NUDGE one on the 1851 ... IMAGE says NUDGE. Parents Joseph & Lucy ...... as given before

*STOP* Have found the entire family on 1871 - WRONG family ! Ilchester Somerset Joseph Fuge abt 1817 Ilchester, Somerset, England Head Lucy Fuge abt 1815 Ilchester, Somerset, England Wife Ellen Fuge abt 1844 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter <<<<<<<<<<<< UNMARRIED Emily A Fuge abt 1846 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter Emma Fuge abt 1842 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter Henry Fuge abt 1848 Ilchester, Somerset, England Son Ilchester Somerset Mary J Fuge abt 1853 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter Merina Fuge abt 1841 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter So this ELLEN is the WRONG Ellen .. Image says Fudge again ! Back to the beginning. !

1881: Church St, Ilchester, Somerset, England James Goff abt 1842 Stockland, Devon, England Head Ellen Goff abt 1844 Ilchester, Somerset, England Wife Augusta Goff abt 1867 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter Roseata Goff abt 1870 Chilthorne, Somerset, England Daughter Charles Goff abt 1872 Ilchester, Somerset, England Son James Goff abt 1875 Ilchester, Somerset, England Son Matilda Goff abt 1877 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter <<< (Connection - so definately correct family). Minnie Goff abt 1879 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter -------------------------------------------- 1871: Chilthorne Domer, Somerset James Gough abt 1844 Stockland, Devon, England Head Ellen Gough abt 1844 Ilchester, Somerset, England Wife Louisa Gough abt 1861 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter Agusta Gough abt 1866 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter <<< on '81 Rosana Gough abt 1870 Ilchester, Somerset, England Daughter <<< on '81 ------------------------------------------------- Just for reference ! STOCKLAND Select map to view parish boundaries in detail. 'STOCKLAND is a large scattered village and parish on the bold range of hills between the Otter and Yarty valleys, about 6 miles N.E. of Honiton, N.W. of Axminster, and S.E. of Chard. It contains 1328 inhabitants, and 5850 acres of land, and with its adjoining parochial chapelry of Dalwood, formed a detached member of Dorsetshire till 1842, when it was added to Devon by act of Parliament. It has a cattle fair on the Wednesday after June 11th, and comprises many scattered farmhouses, &c. The Rev. H.W. Marker is lord of the manor; but W. Tucker, Esq., Robert Davy, Esq., Josiah Anstice, Esq., Thomas Culverwell, Esq., the Rev. Wm. Michell, and many smaller owners, have estates in the parish. The CHURCH (St. Michael,) is a fine antique fabric, with a tower and six bells. . . . The Rev. H.R. Surtees is the present vicar, and has a good residence and 1¼A. of glebe. . . . ' [From White's Devonshire Directory (1850)] More reference material: Places within 5 miles of Stockland , OS Gridref ST244045 ~ 1 miles SW ST240040 Stockland, Devon ~ 2 miles ESE ST270030 Membury, Devon ~ 3 miles N ST240080 Yarcombe, Devon ~ 3 miles S ST240000 Dalwood, Devon ~ 4 miles WSW ST200020 Cotleigh, Devon ~ 4 miles WNW ST200070 Upottery, Devon ~ 4 miles ENE ST290070 Wambrook, Somerset ~ 5 miles E ST309044 Chardstock, Devon ~ 5 miles WSW ST180030 Monkton, Devon ~ 5 miles SSW SY210990 Widworthy, Devon ~ 5 miles NNE ST280100 Whitestaunton, Somerset ~ 5 miles S SY250970 Shute, Devon ~ 5 miles SW SY190990 Offwell, Devon ~ 5 miles E ST320050 Tatworth, Somerset ~ 5 miles SE SY290980 Axminster, Devon ~ 5 miles SSE SY270970 Kilmington, Devon

this is them in 1881, Matilda Goff is my gt grandma who married in wales

had another look on free bmd and igi, still cant find any thing, i dont think this side of the family want to be found either that or they have something to hide.

thanks thats a good reference to have

There are quite a few James Goff and James Gough's born in Stockland, devon on the earlier census's ... but NONE in the correct year - or remotely near ! I'm now beginning to wonder IF Ellen's surname was Fudge rather than Nudge ... as no matter WHERE I search, no results are showing for Nudge !!! not on census's or BMD's ! ...it's like the name never existed !! lol. I'm currently researching the possibility that Ellen Nudge (Fudge) is the Ellen b 1840 ish !!! Fudge ... daughter of Jemima ! (NO Father ever listed ) 1841: Jemima has Ellen aged 6 mths with her in Ilchester 1851: Jemima has Ellen aged 9 and Grace aged 5 1861 jemima has Ellen aged 19 and Grace aged 16 1871 Jemima has Grace 25 There ARE other children. I'm still researching sorry !! I'm like a dog with a bone ! Now I'm NOT sure about Ellen Fudge: ... you'll see why !! Marriages Jun 1869 DAVIS Joseph Keynsham 5c 1156 FUDGE Ellen Jemima Keynsham 5c 1156 <<< ?????? Could this be the same Ellen ? GARDINER Nathan Keynsham 5c 1156 LARKHAM Mary Ann Keynsham 5c 1156 Maybe ?

it could well be, im totally confused by Nudge, Fudge, and Judge, just had a word with my dad, he just laughed and said the whole family on that side have lost their marbles, he is just as confused as me.

just been looking on bmd and it probably looks like it is ellen fudge from keynsham, as there isnt any others, but i still cant find a marriage for ellen and james,