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I have just found another lady on here that has ann on her tree and knows of her marriage am awaiting a reply in the hope of some usefull info. Thanks for your help. I just dont know where to go with the Kate on the cenus thing.

Now on the 1901 Ozibird found of the Picketts with no Kate. He has a son called James b1897 this would make him old enough to be a witness maybe you should look for a marriage for a James to a Norah. Now have you checked with the person who has Ann & James in their tree if they have the 1891 census details? I think you are both after the same people. Zoe

Yes i have Kates marriage cert she was married 31st july 1919 to George Richard Browning in St olave witnesses were James Pickett and Norah Pickett. I do not know whom Norah is but i presume James was her father so perhaps Norah is a second wife? I have found no trace of annie / ann's death nor of another marriage. Unless this is a brother and brothers wife?!

Alexandra Does the lady you are in contact with have Annie and James marriage cert? If so ask for the info from it and see if it's the same, you never know they might have let family look after her for some reason.. Now the Banks I have traced I believe they are yours as Caroline Banks married Harry Nicholls gave you this cert info earlier you can always get her cert and check fathers name! AND check with the other person you are in contact with to see if she/he has Caroline as a sister and does the person you are in contact with have Annie and James in the 1891 census??~ that way you should know if they are the same people you are talking about Now in 1901 the Nicholls got MIL Sarah with them 14 Naylor Street Sarah A Banks abt 1841 Walworth, London, England Mother-in-law Camberwell London Ada Nicholls abt 1895 Bermondsey, London, England Daughter Camberwell London Caroline Nicholls abt 1869 Walworth, London, England Wife Camberwell London Caroline Nicholls abt 1889 Bermondsey, London, England Daughter Camberwell London Harry Nicholls abt 1867 Camberwell, London, England Head Camberwell London Harry Nicholls abt 1891 Bermondsey, London, England Son Camberwell London Jane Nicholls abt 1897 Bermondsey, London, England Daughter Camberwell London Mary Nicholls abt 1893 Bermondsey, London, England Daughter Camberwell London Zoe

Do you have Kates marriage cert? Zoe

Hi thanks for reply she was definetly Kate born St Olave Southwark on the 17th oct 1898 to James Pickett wheelright and Ann nee Banks born at home 4 Guy street.

please confirm Kates date of birth, where she was born and her parents names please. was she deffinatley Kate not Catherine/Katherine/Kathryn?

oh right what do you sugest i try then kate would of been 2 mayb just under at 1901. Perhaps she was in hospital for some reason any ideas how i can look etc ?

Yes i know thats what i thought about them having only 1 child. The lady whom i am in contact with has many certs (birth) where father was james Pickett and mother ann nee banks which is obversly same as what i have even father same occupation wheelright. Different addresses though. But the addresses she has the family were not living at in 1901 as i check the address on 1901 cenus and were different families. it would appear her relations were the ones stated in cenus in this message. But if this is them and the info on all there birth certs is same as on my Kates why is Kate not on that cenus too???

ok i might not be back as gotta terrible cold at moment so might just head off to bed for the night. seems funny you having breakfast and me going to bed lol!!! If you can find out any info for me on the picketts as discussed i will be so greatful im having a hard time finding anything and as explained its very very important to me il check back on here 2moro morning uk time lol and see if you have replied thanks so much have a nice breakfast!

ok yes on kates cert its says st olave southwark address at birth 4 guy street

couldnt find her on 1901 cenus no therefore i dont know if she had any siblings etc which is what im trying to find more then ever

Im not sure about that cenus info re pickett i think that is the one the other lady is related from yes im related through kate she was my nans mother. She was born 1898 and died 1933 aged 35 - 37 awaiting death cert on index states she died age 37 and on the cemetery (streatham park in london) she is down as 37 but looking at dates she was 35.

not going well with picketts the reason im desperate to find about them is james and ann's daughter Kate is my nans mum and kate died 1933 when my nan was just 7 or 8. So my nan nor her family new there mum really and my nan doesnt remember much off her. Kate married george browning in 1919 and they had 5 children i found recently there were 5 plus another 2 children they were unknown. 1 died a year after birth and the other was born 2 yrs before kate died in 1931 so there is a total of 7 children. my nan was never registered but is the only one out of the 7 not to be. I am trying to find as much info on her family as poss so she knows before she passes on its very important to me and im awaiting her mothers (Kate's) death cert any day now. Any help with the Picketts would be great as i am doing well with the brownings

I found another member whom appears to have same rele's in tree in regards to james pickett and ann banks except they dont have any info on there child i have which is Kate and they have other children which i cannot find and didnt know off one i know as Jane. Is there any reason she might not know off Kate the reason i say is she is a direct desendant and her surname is Pickett James whom married ann banks would of been her ggf.

ok, as there is no middle name stated on ann's daughters birth cert or on the marriage cert does this mean she hasnt got a middle name or didnt you have to state middle name at that time?

what do you think name jospeh on cert is wrong or do you think cenus name james is wrong?

Seems like a mistranscription by the person who wrote cert.. Same address in 1881 definatly her with sister Caroline. Zo

Could be but as said it is actually jospeh banks unless miss transcribed

have u found any info on james pickett at all?