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Im trying to find the possible marriage of a Samuel Smith and a Maud in Birmingham between 1918 and 1936. Ive trawled through the ancestry free bmd index for 1930-1936 and only come up with one possible which isnt seeming likely (ive got a few Maud maiden names to check it against). But this has taken ages and my eyes are going blurry. Im having to find all Samuel Smith marriages in Brimingham, writing down the wifes maiden names and then checking those names with the same date to find the wifes first name to check if its Maud. Is there an easier way to check the 1918-1929? Can anyone help? Thanks, Deborah

Do you have a definite date of birth for any children born to this couple? The birth entry will show Maud's maiden name, which may be easier to search than SMITH. Don't forget though that if it wasn't her 1st marriage you wouldn't probably get a maiden name =SMITH match. Gwyn

Nope, sorry. The only reason i know they were a couple or think they were is because there on the electoral roll together. Its a very complicated situation.... :( I know that my father inlaws father (who he didnt know, and never knew the date of birth of, etc, etc) lived there during that time and those two people were the main couple living there throughout those years, so im hoping there his parents. But trying to find any possible marriage so i can do a search for his name and see if i can them match that maiden name of the possible marriages ive got to his possilble birth mothers maiden name. Make sense? Its the only option ive got, ive got no solid other information, just an address and a year he was living there. If i them get a possible maiden name that matches both a marriage to a samuel smith by a maud and a birth of a possible Peter Smith. Then ill order them on the off chance and see what they say. At the minute it would cost me thousands to order all Peter Smith births within a 5 ish year age gap in the Birmingham area. Its the only way i can think to narrow it down. x Deb

Here are all the Marriages i can find so far 1921 Jan-mar Samuel Smith Married Edith Upton Aston 6d 823 1922 Jul-Sep Samuel Smith Married Elizabeth Oughton Coventry 6d 1583 None for 1923 1924 Oct-Dec Samuel Smith Married Harriet Pyne Atherstone 6d 1197 1924 Oct-Dec Samuel Smith Married Minnie Short Birmingham S 6d 395 I am looking at 1925 as i type will go up to 1929 for you None for 1925 Kath x

1926 A-J Samuel Smith Married Elsie Thomas Birmingham S 6d 156 1927 a-j Samuel Smith Married Rosina Inscoe Birmingham N 6d 1186 1927 o-d Samuel Smith Married Rose H Phillips Birmingham N 6d 1089 1928 a-j Samuel Smith Married Edith Rogers Atherstone 6d 1384 1928 a-j Samuel Smith Married Catherine O'Roarke Birmingham S 6d 536 **1928 J-S Samuel Smith Married MAUD Matthews Birmingham N 6d 1153 1929 a-j Samuel Smith Married Florence A Timms Atherstone 6d 1239 1929 J-S Samuel Smith Married Edna M Farndon Foleshill 6d 1857 (checked this out incas name was edna maud but it's Edna May b 1909 Foleshill) Cannot access 1929 O-D problem with images

So that just leaves, 1918,1919 and 1920. I found a Samuel Smith married Maud Parker in Birmingham in AMJ 1935 aswell. So thats two options so far. Thanks so much, my brain was beginning to haze over.

There was a Peter Smith born to a Connelly and Mathews in J,FM of 44. So theres a good option.

You're doing well there Kath. Just checked Deb's maiden name list and I see that Matthews was a possible for Peter. A 'result' maybe?

with regards to your other thread i have looked for Kenneth F Smith Births J-S 1928 to O-D 1929 MMN Matthews and None am now seeing if there is a Peter ,James, Adriana or Beryl Kath x

Perhaps Kenneth and James were born early than the estimated year (by taking away the 21 electoral age). They could have been in the Army or moved away from home and then moved back. Wondering whether its work checking a couple of more years back for each of those two males. Perhaps they both just moved back when they married prior to finding a home themselves? Thanks,

Hi Deb well no James born in 1928/29 either so don't check those dates Kath x ps am checking 1918-1920 Marriages for Samuel Smith to Maud but got to go out in 20 mins so i will get straight back on it when i get in K x

If we take the electoral age of 21 and presume they were always living there and only registered on it when they did then that would mean that: Kenneth was born the year prior to Oct (when the electoral reg was taken) 1936 James was born the year prior to Oct (when the electoral reg was taken) 1938 Well these have been checked so far then: Kenneth 1935-1937, 1928-1929, James 1937-1939, 1928-1929, and if the couple married in 1928 and we're the right ones, id say Kenneth 1930-35 needs doing and James 1930-37. So ill do James 36-35. then it just leaves 1930-34 for both of them. I can feel my brain going again. LOL Thanks for all your help,

No Marriages for 1920 1919 O-D Samuel Smith Married Kate H (or M)Lowe Nuneaton 6d 1516 1918 J-S Samuel Smith Married Elizabeth Gutteridge Kings N 6d 283 1918 J-S Samuel Smith Married Annie Allen Aston 6d 976 1918 A-J Samuel Smith Married Alice Murphy Kings N 6d 263

No James from those two surnames for 1935-36. So that leaves 1930-34 for both. Ill start with 1934.

nothing for 1934 for Kenneth or James with those two parents surnames. Looking more and more unlikely :(

Found no Kenneths for those two surnames, but did find a Kenneth in OND 1933 with the maiden name Nicholls, which matching the maiden name on a James one i did earier. doesnt help though, because even if the father married twice and had children with both, why would he marry Maud in '28, then have children with another woman then be living with her again in the 60's LoL Im getting no where fast.

Do you want to try 1930 for both names?

Ok Deb i'll try 1930 for both Kenneth and James Kath x we will get there in the end love lol

no matching james in 1933 either. Ill try 1932 for both.

No James for 1932