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Gertrude Lilian Cooper

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Jenny

Jenny Report 29 Aug 2006 21:18

i just wanted to say thanks for everyones help it has made this section of my family a little bit easier to trace. I have just got the rest to work out now :)

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 29 Aug 2006 20:41

Jenny, Are you sure there weren't more children if the marriage was in 1919? Might be worth looking. This might be your Gertrude: Births Mar 1896 Cooper Gertrude Lily Billericay 4a 495 From 1901, her parents look to be James and Elizabeth. Rose

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 29 Aug 2006 13:57

If you go to: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7158356&queryType=1&resultcount=22s You can look up these details and then for £3.50 download Sydney's complete record: Name Aylett, Sydney Charles Official Number: J40410 Place of Birth: Faversham, Kent Date 22 September 1899 Catalogue reference ADM 188/727links to the Catalogue Dept Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies Series Admiralty: Registers of Seamen's Services Piece 40001-40500 Image contains 1 item for the catalogue reference There are several other Ayletts too, so you might find other members of the same family. The Ayletts are a perfect family for genealogical research as they have a fairly unusual name and have largely stayed in the same area. You will find plenty of them by Googling - including Eleanor Aylett who was denounced as a witch!!!

Jenny

Jenny Report 29 Aug 2006 10:13

Cheers i realise that now lol. Thanks for all the info. I have now found gertrude and sidneys marriage now they were married in q3 in 1919.

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 29 Aug 2006 10:02

Ayletts in Faversham and Ospringe Parish records and census data show families in Faversham and neighboring Ospringe from the early 19thC. These are mainly poor labouring families on the land – hayworkers agricultural workers with the occasional brickmaker and gardener. It's likely that the Faversham and Ospringe families were related to each other but there is no hard evidence. Families began to spread out of this area as the 19thC went on – for example by the 1850s an Ospringe Thomas Aylett had married an Ellen Grantham in Bredgar and gone on to bring up a family there. A George Aylett born in 1851 in faversham and marrying an Emily Page 1853, 13 October 1872 at St Marys, Faversham, moved all the way to Norfolk, and several generations of the family grew up there, including Albert Christmas Aylett (1877-1952) who got his middle name because he was born on December 25th and oddly also died on the same day. Descendants of this family are around in the present day. Another Albert, born in 1871, moved even further to become a mine worker in Coalville, Leicestershire. Again, the family stayed in the area for more than one generation, and again their descendants are still around. This was on a website devoted to the Aylett family: aylett.cwc.net/home.html

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 29 Aug 2006 09:51

Jenny, I just read back over this thread and noticed that you didn't understand the relevance of the Faversham Munitions Works..... it's where Charles and his nephew would have worked. If they were still working there 15 years later they could have been victims of the explosion.

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 29 Aug 2006 01:31

I mentioned Charles's father Edward - somebody else has him in his family tree: ID: I1194 Name: Edward AYLETT Sex: M Birth: 1826 in Faversham Kent England Note: In 1861 Census lived at 12 Wallers Row Faversham, Age 35 Occupation Agriculture Worker In 1901 index, 76 Kent Rochester KentFaversham Without 11708270 File note:GRO entry Mar quarter 1846 v5p229 Faversham. This is well after apparent birth of first child however. 2nd marriage? The person concerned is not a GR member. He's Jim Keck 1803 Keogh St. Burlington, NC 27215 Tel: 336 229-0426 Keck-Rachor Family History Website Send email to: jkeck1 'AT' triad.rr(.)com

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 29 Aug 2006 01:18

I would bet she was one of these... Gertrude Lilian Cooper 1903 Oct-Nov-Dec Leicester Leicestershire Gertrude Lilian Cooper 1905 Jan-Feb-Mar West Derby Lancashire Gertrude Lilian Cooper 1906 Oct-Nov-Dec Aston Warwickshire Gertrude Lilian Cooper 1906 Oct-Nov-Dec Isle Of Wight Hampshire, Isle Of Wight Gertrude Lilian Cooper 1906 Oct-Nov-Dec Nottingham Nottinghamshire

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 29 Aug 2006 01:11

Gordon was born in 1928 and Gloria in 1930. This means that their mother could have been born any time before 1910.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 29 Aug 2006 01:04

Jenny, When was the first child born? We still don't know about Gertrude. You will need to order the marriage cert for that. Rose

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 29 Aug 2006 01:03

I suggest you now contact Lawrence (GR Member No. 4442547) who has Charles in his tree.

Jenny

Jenny Report 29 Aug 2006 00:53

thankyou once more. It has really been such a help to see it al here for me take in.i really appreciate all the time you have put in

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 29 Aug 2006 00:53

1871 England Census Record Name: Jane Jennett Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Jane Gender: Female Where born: Faversham, Kent, England Jennetts Alley (interesting, that!) Civil Parish: Faversham Town: Faversham County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Faversham Sub-registration district: Faversham ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 10 Alice Jennett 14 Jane Jennett 41 Jane Jennett 8 Thomas Jennett 11 William Jennett 48 Dredger William Jennett 18 Dredger's son All born Faversham

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 29 Aug 2006 00:43

1891 England Census Record Name: Charles Aylett Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where Born: Faversham, Kent, England Civil parish: Faversham Ecclesiastical parish: Faversham Town: Faversham County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: 13 Wallers Row Occupation: General Labourer Registration district: Faversham Sub registration district: Faversham ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Charles Aylett 29 Frederick Edward Aylett 2 Jane Aylett 26 Sarah Jane Sherwood 7 stepdaughter Now this tells us that this was Jane's second marriage so she was not born Sherwood. As on the following census there is a nephew called George Jennett we can surmise that he was Jane's brother and her birth name was Jennett. I notice that other members of the Aylett family were neighbours in the street. Looks like his parents next door and beyond them his older brother and family.

Jenny

Jenny Report 29 Aug 2006 00:32

not quite sure why its relevent :) but its interesting and i would just like to say thanks again for all your help today

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 29 Aug 2006 00:26

Faversham munitions works The plant offered well-paid work to men as far afield as Herne Bay and Margate and Faversham had become for a short period one of the centres of the nations munitions industry. By 1915 it had expanded to cover a 500-acre (2 km²) site including in its range of products along with guncotton, cordite, gelignite, nitroglycerine, detonators, dynamite and distress rockets. To lessen the expense of production for the war effort a cheap but highly volatile chemical amatol was introduced into the process of bomb and shell manufacture at the Explosives Loading Company (ELC) site that had opened in 1912 next to the guncotton plant. At 14:20 on Sunday 2 April 1916, a huge explosion ripped through the gunpowder mill at Uplees, near Faversham, when 200 tons of TNT ignited. 109 people died in the explosion, and many were buried in a mass grave at Faversham Cemetery. The munitions factory was in a remote spot in the middle of the open marshes of North Kent, next to the Thames coastline. Perhaps that is why it was chosen. It also explains why the great explosion at about noon on 2 April was heard across the Thames estuary as far away as Norwich, Great Yarmouth and Southend-on-Sea, where domestic windows were blown out and two large plate-glass shop windows shattered. Although not the first such disaster of this kind to have happened at Faversham’s historic munitions works, the April 1916 blast is recorded as 'the worst ever in the history of the UK explosives industry'. And considering the quantity of explosive chemical stored at the works — with one report indicating that a further 3,000 tons remained in nearby sheds unaffected — it is remarkable, and a tribute to those who struggled against the fire that so much of the nation's munitions were prevented from contributing further to the catastrophe.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 29 Aug 2006 00:21

Paul, If he sustained an injury during the war and later died from that injury he will be listed under the war dead. My grandfather died after his ship sank in the North Atlantic and he caught TB. He died after the war and is listed on the CWGC site. Rose

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 29 Aug 2006 00:21

Funny you should ask that. My grandmother's name was Eliza Jane but she was known as Jennie. It seems it was a version of Jane at the time.

Jenny

Jenny Report 29 Aug 2006 00:15

wow thanks again. i would have never found so much info on my own.there is just one thing tho on the first info u got for me it says his mothers name was jennie then on the cencus it says her name is jane?? any ideas

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 29 Aug 2006 00:12

1901 England Census Name: Sidney Aylett Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation: Son Father's name: Charles Mother's name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Oare, Kent, England Civil parish: Oare Ecclesiastical parish: Oare St Peters Town: Oare County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: 4 Church Road Registration district: Faversham Sub-registration district: Faversham ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 72 Annie C Aylett 7 born Oare Bertie J Aylett 9 born Faversham Charles Aylett 38 born Faversham Eva F Aylett 3 born Oare Frederick Aylett 12 born Faversham Jane Aylett 36 born Davington? Sidney Aylett 1 born Oare George Jennett 15 nephew His father Charles was an Oven Cooker, Cordite Factory if I read the handwriting correctly. His nephew, George was a Clerk in the Cordite Powder factory.