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Fresh pair of eyes please 1861 lookup

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GI Jane

GI Jane Report 10 Nov 2006 19:29

I am looking for Philip Domm and wife Christiana on 1861 or any census after that - I have them on the 1851 living with daughter Catherine in Whitechapel. I then have Catherine living with Aunt and Uncle in 1861 - no parents. I have the death certificate for Philip Domm he died in 1897. But between those to dates I have nothing. Please can anyone point me in the right direction. Should mention on 1851 it states Pru British Subjects from Prussia. Philip Domm born abt1818 Christiana abt 1822. Catherine 1841.( in Whitechapel) Thanks Clare

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Nov 2006 19:33

1891 Name: Phillip Domm Age: 70 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where born: Germany Civil Parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Southampton County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Poor House

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 10 Nov 2006 19:37

Thanks Tracy - that's him - Great! Clare

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Nov 2006 19:39

I can't see him before that. It's possible they travelled a lot, given that he's a musician.

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 10 Nov 2006 19:44

That's possible I suppose. Just wondered why daughter was living with aunt and uncle. I've tried to find a death for Christiana but come up with nothing. Clare

Marie

Marie Report 10 Nov 2006 19:49

found this one Clare 1861 England Census about Phillip Doerr Name: Phillip Doerr Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Christina Gender: Male Where born: Germany Civil Parish: Paddington Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 74 Household Members: Name Age Charles Arthur Doerr 1 Christina Doerr 35 Fredk Phillippa Doerr 5 Phillip Doerr 37 Karl Kaiser 20 Ikeb Senbol 22 View Original Record View Original Image

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 10 Nov 2006 19:51

Blimey Marie - how did you find that - I will investigate further - thanks very much Clare

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 10 Nov 2006 19:56

Just had a quick look Marie - don't think it's right occupation on my Philip was musician - Phillipe Doerr was a baker.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Nov 2006 19:58

1871 Name: Philip Doman (!) Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Germany Civil Parish: All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Does say he's still married though...

Marie

Marie Report 10 Nov 2006 20:00

1871 England Census about Philip Doman Name: Philip Doman Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Germany Civil Parish: All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Southampton Sub-registration district: Southampton ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 118 Household Members: Name Age Philip Doman 45 Elizabeth James 56 Agnes E Priest 5 Charles H Priest 3 Claribel I Priest 1 Selina J Priest 27 William H Priest 31 View Original Record View Original Image occupation musician

Marie

Marie Report 10 Nov 2006 20:04

a possible??? 1881 England Census about Philip Donner Name: Philip Donner Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: (British Subject), Germany Civil Parish: Southampton St Mary County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: 7 Union St Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View Image Occupation: General Laborer Registration district: Southampton Sub-registration district: Southampton ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Philip Donner 50 Ralph M. Downs 52 Sophia King 37 View Original Record View Original Image

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 10 Nov 2006 20:05

Thanks Tracy and Marie looks very likely for 1871 - occupation and area seem to tie in. I live only 25 Miles from Southampton.

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 10 Nov 2006 20:12

Can't keep up with you ladies - that's just brilliant info - such a variation on a name though, but I've looked at the images and you can see how they could be mistranscribed. Thanking you both. Clare

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Nov 2006 20:13

Wish I could find his wife lol Do you know if they had any more kids?

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 10 Nov 2006 20:18

I cannot find any reference to any brothers or sisters of Catherine - should maybe mention that she is also known as Kate. Her mothers name is sometimes Christiana or Christian and I think her maiden name was Schmidt although on their marriage certificate she is Christiana Smith - she signed it Schmidt. Confused!!! Clare

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Nov 2006 20:22

Just found this: Name: Frederick Philip Doerr Year of Registration: 1855 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Kensington County: United Kingdom Volume: 1a Page: 3 Name: Charles Arthur Doerr Year of Registration: 1860 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Kensington County: United Kingdom Volume: 1a Page: 20 Think that discounts that family.

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 10 Nov 2006 20:28

Not to sure on this Philip Doerr!! I am wondering if Christiana maybe died soon after 1851 census. Clutching at straws now!!

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 10 Nov 2006 20:35

Just had another look of image 1861 Philip Doerr - could look very like Domm - only snag baker not musician - they could have had more children - then what happened to Christiana after 1861???? Don't know what to think now. If Christiana died in 1859 this family can't be right.

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 10 Nov 2006 20:44

That has got to be a good possiblity hasn't it? I'll send for the certificate.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Nov 2006 21:37

Well done Ozi! No wonder I couldn't find Christiana lol Stephen and Catherine didn't last long... Death Jun 1866 Domm Stephen P 4 Steyning 2b 165 Death Jun 1866 Domm Catherine 2 Steyning 2b 164 The other Catherine: Death Jun 1915 Domm Catherine J 71 Steyning 2b 353